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Karl-Hermann Frank

Post by lohengrin » 16 Nov 2019 10:53

Hello -
Can anyone ID any of the other persons in the 2 photos? I am also adding 3 one from the same series. Looks like some BDM visit?
(Source of the images is a private collection). Thank you!
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Re: Karl-Hermann Frank

Post by Andrey » 16 Nov 2019 11:41

Hi Lohengrin,

SS-Ostubaf. on your photo is future SS-Staf. Dr. Robert Gies.

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Re: Karl-Hermann Frank

Post by goofy » 16 Nov 2019 20:36

I have few more images from this event...photos are from July 1942 and location is Julowischt (Jiloviste) in Czech rep.
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Re: Karl-Hermann Frank

Post by LadyHerta » 18 Nov 2019 04:37

The Ordnungspolizei gentleman in the first photograph is Frank's adjutant Hans. I am yet to find a surname for him.

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Re: Karl-Hermann Frank

Post by Georges JEROME » 19 Nov 2019 00:34

Adjudant :
Hauptmann der Schutzpolizei d. R. Heinrich Borgs.
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Re: Karl-Hermann Frank

Post by LadyHerta » 24 Nov 2019 07:03

I have consulted a friend of mine who studies Karl Hermann Frank. They identified the gentleman in the photographs to be the following:

Ordnungspolizei adjutant of Frank’s: Major der Schutzpolizei Hans Hoffman

NSDAP gentleman: Konstantin Hoß - Gauleiter of Prague

SD officer: Robert Giles - Frank’s SD associate

Other NSDAP gentleman could be Hitler Jugend. Also, the female BDM Commander for Prague was married to Horst Böhme - SD chief for Prague.

The Prague Gauleiter is in this picture behind Heydrich and Frank.

Also too, this was Frank’s Adjutant Hans Hoffman (from the photograph they gave me)

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Re: Karl-Hermann Frank

Post by von thoma » 24 Nov 2019 07:27

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Re: Karl-Hermann Frank

Post by smetanin albert » 24 Nov 2019 08:42

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Re: Karl-Hermann Frank

Post by goofy » 24 Nov 2019 10:56

Right behind Heydrich and Frank stood from right Konstantin Hoß (actually he was a Kreisleiter in Prague), police officer who I thought might be Kurt Pomme??, Curt von Burgsdorff (hidden behind Heydrich), Hans Schwedler (behind Frank), Horst Böhme, Paul Riege and OKW general....

Robert Gies, adjutant of Frank was in the second row and is not in this photo.
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Re: Karl-Hermann Frank

Post by goofy » 24 Nov 2019 11:47

Here is another photo of the police officer what are you referring to (from the front yard of the Prague castle). I am not convinced that it is the same person.
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Re: Karl-Hermann Frank

Post by Max Williams » 24 Nov 2019 19:32

The police officer behind Frank and Heydrich is plainly not the same man as in the photo beneath it. Michal is correct in the assumption that it is almost certainly Kurt Pomme, Heydrich's first adjutant. In support of this, one must ask the question 'why is Frank's adjutant in so prominent a place in the line-up in preference to Heydrich's own adjutant?' Etiquette dictates that Heydrich's adjutant commands a more prominent position. Added to this, a former acquaintance of Heydrich identified to me the police officer as Pomme. The small element of doubt exists purely because there are no known file photos of Kurt Pomme.
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Re: Karl-Hermann Frank

Post by von thoma » 25 Nov 2019 07:48

I am puzzled. Is this the same police officer of LadyHerta's picture?
Heinrich Borgs, or Hans Hoffman?
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Re: Karl-Hermann Frank

Post by Linny » 25 Nov 2019 21:24

While there may be no known photos of Kurt Pomme, there is a relatively detailed description of what he looked like in a book by Hanjürgen Koehler called "Inside the Gestapo":

Captain Pomme is about forty, a tall, broad-shouldered man with close-cropped dark hair, parted on the side. His face is round, his eyes dark, his bearing is the typical stiff one of an old-fashioned Prussian officer. He has a hard, commanding manner of speech, he behaves very politely, even amiably, to strangers. He is married and lives very simply, almost modestly. I knew him as a humane, honest man, very moderate.

So, you need to look for someone who's close to height in Heydrich and who has dark hair.

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Re: Karl-Hermann Frank

Post by LadyHerta » 30 Nov 2019 21:51

goofy wrote:
24 Nov 2019 10:56
Right behind Heydrich and Frank stood from right Konstantin Hoß (actually he was a Kreisleiter in Prague)
A Kreisleiter? My source was under the impression he was a Gauleiter. Oh well, never mind we all make mistakes! Thank you for the correction.

Linny is right. Pomme was a tall broad shouldered gentleman, and possibly identified in many photographs.

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