Photos from Johann Niemann (Sobibor) collection

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Re: Photos from Johann Niemann (Sobibor) collection

Post by dicktone » 29 Jan 2020 18:22

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Here's a photograph from the Niemann album alongside W. Rutherford's 2005 map of Sobibor (c. 1943). By my estimation, the photograph looks north east from a location roughly equivalent to the red square next to the number 11 on the map, which I assume is the location of a guard tower. The angle and elevation of the photograph suggests it was taken from the tower. We see the extreme south east corner of the camp, an area which, on Rutherford's map, corresponds to buildings 12, 13, and 5 through 9.

In the foreground is a guard hut: another is visible to the right of the gate on the right of the photo. The shack like structure in the left middle distance is labeled as a "storage hut" by Rutherford, and if that ID is right, then we see the extreme right hand gable end and wall of the SS accommodations at far left. The buildings in the distance are, right to left, speculatively identified as the Ukrainian jail, SS canteen and kitchen (perhaps two buildings rather than the L-shaped structure on Rutherford's map), perhaps the SS garage and, the commandant's house, the Schwalbennest.
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Re: Photos from Johann Niemann (Sobibor) collection

Post by Michael Miller » 29 Jan 2020 18:25

Nope, disregard that. The more I look, the more I see he resembles Pötzinger most.

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Re: Photos from Johann Niemann (Sobibor) collection

Post by Stefano » 29 Jan 2020 19:59

Max Williams wrote:
29 Jan 2020 17:14
Yes, he was in Trieste attached to Abteilung R as a member of the staff of the Führerkanzlei.
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No Blankenburg was not posted in Italy. He visited Trieste a number of times (there are photos in our book "Globocnik's men in Italy') but he was not there attached to Abteilung R.
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Re: Photos from Johann Niemann (Sobibor) collection

Post by Stefano » 29 Jan 2020 20:05

On the Berlin photo, the Trawniki on the right does not look like Bienemann, but rather like Libodenko / Lebodenko.
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Re: Photos from Johann Niemann (Sobibor) collection

Post by hucks216 » 29 Jan 2020 20:46

Apologies if I have missed the link already being posted but here is the book of photos available for purchase:

http://metropol-verlag.de/produkt/fotos-aus-sobibor/

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Re: Photos from Johann Niemann (Sobibor) collection

Post by trespasser07 » 29 Jan 2020 20:51

Why only print it in German? There will be a wider depend for this surely
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Re: Photos from Johann Niemann (Sobibor) collection

Post by hucks216 » 29 Jan 2020 20:56

Here is the Contents which is available for free download at the previous linked site:
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Re: Photos from Johann Niemann (Sobibor) collection

Post by Georg_S » 29 Jan 2020 21:02

trespasser07 wrote:
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Why only print it in German? There will be a wider depend for this surely
I promise that this Book Will be in English, spanish and A lot of different language. Metropol Verlag is One of the best companies dealing with this matter.

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Re: Photos from Johann Niemann (Sobibor) collection

Post by mil-archive » 30 Jan 2020 11:22

Does anyone know if the Metropole link above is the HardBack version ? The paperback is at that same price with the same ISBN here:

https://www.bookdepository.com/Fotos-au ... 3863315061

So I am wondering if the metropole link is the Hard back or Paper back and if its the paperback where can you get the hardback edition from ?

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Re: Photos from Johann Niemann (Sobibor) collection

Post by hucks216 » 30 Jan 2020 11:30

The button at the bottom of the page says ebook/pdf but I am just waiting for the invoice to see if I get charged for shipping to see if it is actually a real book or an ebook. No idea about hard or paperback if it is a real book.

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Post by hucks216 » 30 Jan 2020 12:57

Just received my invoice from Metropol Verlag and it is an ebook for 23 Euros, not a physical hardback/paperback type of book which is 29 Euros and looks to be a hardback version.

It looks to be a well published book. Plenty of narrative to set the details and the photos are shown either one or two photos per page with text captions as well. I will wait to see if it is going to be translated before I go for the physical type of book but one way or the other I will buy that version as well.

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Re: Photos from Johann Niemann (Sobibor) collection

Post by trespasser07 » 30 Jan 2020 14:03

Yeah need an English version hopefully its not in 2023.
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Re: Photos from Johann Niemann (Sobibor) collection

Post by mil-archive » 30 Jan 2020 15:11

I contacted them, the 29EUR one is hardback. I've ordered it and received a notification but haven't actually paid yet, bit of an odd system but so long as it works this looks very interesting.

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Re: Photos from Johann Niemann (Sobibor) collection

Post by Max Williams » 30 Jan 2020 18:54

Stefano wrote:
29 Jan 2020 19:59
Max Williams wrote:
29 Jan 2020 17:14
Yes, he was in Trieste attached to Abteilung R as a member of the staff of the Führerkanzlei.
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No Blankenburg was not posted in Italy. He visited Trieste a number of times (there are photos in our book "Globocnik's men in Italy') but he was not there attached to Abteilung R.
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We'll have to disagree on that. You are right that he was not posted to Trieste, but he was responsible for the transfer and subsequent employment of Abteilung R Reichskanzlei personnel under the command of HSSPF OZAK. Otherwise, why on earth did he ever go to Trieste on a number of occasions?
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Re: Photos from Johann Niemann (Sobibor) collection

Post by Stefano » 30 Jan 2020 21:10

The question was "Did Blankenburg serve under the Globocnik in Trieste?" I think the reply to that is surely not. He was also not attached to Abteilung R, rather this was under his control. Otherwise you are right that Abteilung R men in the OZAK were ultimately under the authority of the Reichskanzlei in the person of Blankenburg.
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