Günter Gils, SS-Pz. GR Rgt. 46

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Günter Gils, SS-Pz. GR Rgt. 46

Post by steve248 » 23 Feb 2020 20:02

John Moore's Führerliste has Günter Gils KIA with this unit on 1 Feb. 1944 when SS-Ustuf.
He was born 4 Oct. 1913.
What division was this unit a part of and anyone further details on Gils other than John Moore's listing

I think Gils had an earlier career with BdS Den Haag, Referent III C (SD) when SS-Hstuf.

Gils may have held a doctorate - in what?

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Re: Günter Gils, SS-Pz. GR Rgt. 46

Post by lazybather » 24 Feb 2020 10:05

Steve,

the 46th SS-Freiw.Gren.Rgt was subordinate to the 20th Waffen-Gren.Div. der SS (1st Est.).

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Re: Günter Gils, SS-Pz. GR Rgt. 46

Post by steve248 » 24 Feb 2020 10:47

Thank Stuart - and a avatar!

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Re: Günter Gils, SS-Pz. GR Rgt. 46

Post by FransN » 24 Feb 2020 17:25

Hi Steve and Stuart,
In my 2002 edition of John P. Moore´s Führerliste I have Günter Gils as the Adjutant of SS-Pz. Gren. Rgt. 48 (not 46). So apparently he was in the 4. SS-Frw. Pz. Gren. Brigade "Nederland", and not in the Estonian division. According to the list he was an Ustuf. when he died on 01.02.1944. A bit strange that he had an earlier career as an SD officer with a Hstuf. rank. Was that an Allgemeine SS rank? Or was he demoted? Two different persons maybe? Typing error?
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Re: Günter Gils, SS-Pz. GR Rgt. 46

Post by steve248 » 24 Feb 2020 18:26

Frans you are correct. It was my mistake in misreading the entry. Then I identified him with the Dutch unit and probably died at the Narva bridgehead.

His position with BdS Den Haag as a SD officer would have been with the Allgemeine SS. Such officers did not always receive a similar rank in the Waffen-SS.

My initial information about Gils came from the interrogation of another SD officer with BdS Den Haag who said Gils had died in the East.
I knew that he had not been with the Sipo-SD Einsatzgruppen so could only have been with the Waffen-SS or the army. John Moore's listing then completed the identification.

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Re: Günter Gils, SS-Pz. GR Rgt. 46

Post by BramvanS » 01 Mar 2020 21:22

Günther Gils was at least attached to 11./Frw.Leg.Ndl. in April 1943, so the position in SS-Frw.Pz.Gren.Rgt.48 in 1944 is logical. Previously Günther attended the Junkerschule at Bad Tölz (1942). So the question is when he was with BdS Den Haag.

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Re: Günter Gils, SS-Pz. GR Rgt. 46

Post by BramvanS » 01 Mar 2020 21:29

By the way, Günter Gils was killed during the retreat from the Oranienbaumkessel to Narwa near Keikino (some kilometres Northeast of Narwa).

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Re: Günter Gils, SS-Pz. GR Rgt. 46

Post by steve248 » 02 Mar 2020 13:47

With BdS Den Haag, Abt III C (SD) possibly 1940-1942 is the best dates I can find.

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