SS-Hascha.Hans Siebert

[Tolga Alkan]

Listed as RK holder in J.Pipes's list.But other sources doesn't mention about him.Was he really Rk holder?Also listed as DKIG holder.


SS-Hscharf. Hans Siebert, Zug Fhr. in 1./SS-Pz.Rgt. 2 (6 May 1945)

[Tolga Alkan]

*Not listed in third reich factbook
*Not listed in das-ritterkreuz.de
*Not listed in Elit Forces of Third Reich
*Only listed in feldgrau.com

interesting fact: award date same as Emil Seibold's award date.

[Al Carter]

Nor is he listed at

http://www.wehrmacht-awards.com/

Maybe he was unofficial winner since it was so late in the war.

Al Carter

[Tolga Alkan]

We have got interest thing so.
Does anyone huge book of "RK holdersof W-SS" in german?

[Marcus]

He is not listed in "Die Ritterkreuzträger der Waffen-SS" by E.G. Krätschmer either.

/Marcus

[Tolga Alkan]

Thanks Marcus for assistance!So can we say,he isn't holder of Ritterkruez?

[Mark C. Yerger]

I have him as GC only in my 2SS research, confirmed as NOT a KC by Pz Rgt vets and other records keeping veterans including last divisional IIA who kept a detailed diary of applicants and approvals (Hermann Buch). No SS file data on him available due to missing personnel records.

Mark Yerger

[Tolga Alkan]

Thanks Mr.Yerger,
In feldgrau's list,his award date is :6 May 1945 same as Emil Seibold's date.What do you think about it?

[Mark V.]

Hi Tolga!

I checked Weidinger (Comrades to the end) again and here's what he says:

12 March 1945

The regiment (DF) conducted the attack in the sector of II.SS-Panzerkorps with the Second Battalion under Stubaf. Dieter Kesten alone (tank commander Hscha. Hans Siebert destroyed his 65th enemy tank here).

But then if I look at Reynolds (Sons of the Reich), who uses as source both Weidinger's books (also DR division history):

12 March 1945

Later in the day two Soviet counter-attacks were repulsed, the second being supported by ten tanks, four of which were claimed destroyed. Hscha. Emil Seibold, of the 2nd Panzer Battalion, knocked out his sixty-fifth enemy tank in this fighting for which he was awarded the KC. He ended the war as the war as the Division's greatest tank ace with 69 kills to his credit.

Fey also mentiones Seibold's 65th tank destoyed on this day (12/03/1945).

And there is also one interesting thing about Emil Seibold, he isn't listed on Jason's list. It really looks like he mistook Siebert for Seibold.

Finally about the date of award, a lot of KCs were awarded on 6th May 1945, especially to the members of Waffen SS, which were authorized by Sepp Dietrich.

Mark

[Tolga Alkan]

Well done,
you are absolutely right!
Do you want to tell it to Jason?You have good reason.

[Mark V.]

Hi Tolga

I will pass on it for now, but if you'd like you can inform him. And by the way I managed to find two more errors (Günther Lange (not on the list) and Oberst Eduard Hauser).

Mark

[Tolga Alkan]

OK.
Don't worry for now,may i can of course inform it.