Biographical Information on SS-Obersturmführer Friedrich Christ

[Wolfkin]

Hey guys!

I have been researching SS-Obersturmführer Friedrich Christ of LSSAH and it seems that there is very little information on this man out there. I have been able to find a little bit of information and a few pictures but have not been able to find a death date, unless he is still alive. Would anybody know if Friedrich Christ is still alive and if not what his death date is? Thank you in advance!

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Wolfkin

[Researcher]

Do you have his date of birth?

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Researcher

[Wolfkin]

Hello Researcher!

Yes, SS-Obersturmführer Friedrich Christ was born in Munich on December 21, 1920.

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Wolfkin

[Researcher]

Thanks Wolfkin

His death sentence was commuted to life imprisonment in March 1949. Do you know when he was released from Landsberg prison?

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Researcher

[Wolfkin]

Hello Researcher!

I do not know that much about Friedrich Christ after the trials. Hopefully, someone who knows more might see this thread.

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Wolfkin

[Peter]

There is information on John Moore's Waffen-SS Führerliste and I think that he may also have had a brother ??


SS-Ostuf. Friedrich Christ, born 21 Dec 1920 Munich, SS-391 951. He was an SS-Mann with Sta. Deutschland in April 38, SS-Ustuf. with SS-Aufkl.-Abt. 2 in Feb 43, SS-Ostuf. Chef 1./SS-Pz.Rgt. 1 in Jul 44 and in Dec 44 he was Chef 2./SS-Pz.Rgt. 1.

There is also a Franz Christ, born 31 Dec 1921 Munich, SS-367 387 who was SS-Sturmmann with 1./Germania in May 40 and SS-Ustuf. San.Ausb.Kp. d. W-SS in May 44.

[Timo]

Jon, I think you can learn alot about Christ from ordering his personal file and trial record from the NARA.

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Timo

[Wolfkin]

Hello Iltis!

Thank you for that information! This helps out and now I know some more. I didn't know about the possible brother. Thank you again!

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Wolfkin

[Wolfkin]

Hello Timo!

I am going to PM you Timo, I 'd like to let you know why I am looking for information on Friedrich Christ.

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Wolfkin

[Wolfkin]

Hey guys!

I just thought of something! Could those of you that have that John Moore information check and see what it says for SS-Hauptsturmführer Werner Poetschke? I was always under the impression that SS-Hauptsturmführer Werner Poetschke led the 1st Panzer-Kompanie/Panzer-Regiment LSSAH in July 1944. Perhaps for a few days SS-Obersturmführer Friedrich Christ took over? I am a bit confused now. Thank you in advance!

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Wolfkin

[Timo]

Well, without checking the disks: when Peiper had his nervous breakdown / illness / whatever happened to him after the JaBo attack at Mortain, he went on sick leave and Poetschke took over command over the Regiment. I recall in a few days time this made him rise from Kompanieführer, to acting Abteilungskommandeur, to acting Regimentskommandeur. Anyway, due to this Christ, who started the campaign as a Zugführer, moved on to Kompaniechef to replace Poetschke.

Hope this helps. I'll sort out the details for you later.

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Timo

btw, I've got your pm and a reply will follow soon

[Wolfkin]

Hello Timo!

That is strange. According to Lehmann SS-Obersturmführer Karl Kremser took over the 1st SS-Panzer-Kompanie for Poetschke during Normandy. Hmmmm....very interesting, don't y'all love all these contradictions in research?

Well, Kremser led the 1st SS-Panzer-Kompanie during the Ardennes, so perhaps that is a typo on Lehmann's part? I know that the chart in the back of his Leibstandarte Volumes is difficult to follow at times so there is a chance that there could be errors. If the chart is difficult to follow it was most likely difficult to write up. What do y'all think?

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Wolfkin

[Timo]

That is strange. According to Lehmann SS-Obersturmführer Karl Kremser took over the 1st Panzer-Kompanie for Poetschke during Normandy.

John Moore lists Christ as Chef 1./SS-Pz.Rgt. 1 LAH in July 1944 and Chef 2./SS-Pz.Rgt. 1 LAH in December 1944. He only lists Kremser as Chef 1./SS-Pz.Rgt. 1 LAH in December 1944.

Lehmann simply lists Kremser as Chef 1./SS-Pz.Rgt. 1 LAH in July 1944. He does not list Christ at all in July, but does list Poetschke as replacement for Kuhlmann as Abteilungskommandeur. But Lehmann's lists contain various errors, mainly because in several cases he simply asked a veteran to list the commanders for a certain period from memory. This is why for the same Normandy campaign, his list for the SS-1 is riddled with errors.

Possible: look at Lehmann's list not as those holding posts in July 1944 but as those holding posts in July - August 1944. Poetschke started the campaign as Chef 1./SS-Pz.Rgt. 1 LAH and, like you said, replaced Kuhlmann as Abt.Kdr. The vacant position of Chef. 1.Kp. goes to Kremser or Christ. But then Poetschke moves on to the Regiment because Peiper falls out. Who replaced Poetschke as Abt.Kdr.? That's the question. Was it perhaps Christ, thus leaving the 1. Kp. tp Kremser? Or vise versa, Kremser, leaving the Kp. to Christ.
Also possible: was Christ wounded in Normandy, leaving the Kp. to Kremser? Or vise versa, was Kremser wounded and replaced by Christ as Kp.Chef.?

Such problems actually show us how little we know

[Wolfkin]

Hello Timo!

Yes, I see! What you say makes very much sense! I was actually thinking along those lines but was not really sure, but with you explaining it, it seems much more clear now. I think, more than likely, one of the scenarios you mentioned is probably what happened. Or maybe an even different thing happened that we do not even know anything about? Haahaa! Clear as mud and twice as thick, eh? Isn't this a fun hobby?

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Wolfkin

[Elisabeth42]

Hey guys!
Are you still interested in biographical data on Friedrich Christ?
elisabeth