Günther-Eberhardt Wisliceny & Dieter Wisliceny

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Günther-Eberhardt Wisliceny & Dieter Wisliceny

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Post by HT » 06 Aug 2002, 14:23

Was those two SS officers were connected by family bond ?

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Post by Mark C. Yerger » 06 Aug 2002, 14:39

They were brothers.

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Post by sylvieK4 » 06 Aug 2002, 14:55

What rank did Gunther-Eberhardt Wisliceny attain in the SS. Where, and in what capacity, did he serve in the SS?

Does anyone have a photo of Gunther-Eberhardt and/ or his brother, Dieter?

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Post by Mark V. » 06 Aug 2002, 20:24

Sylvie, here's some info on Eberhardt Günther Wisliceny
Günther was one of the most decorated regimental commanders in the German army, he received:
KC with Oak Leaves and Swords,
German Cross in Gold,
Close Combat Clasp in Gold,
Wound Badge in Gold

He received KC and German Cross in Gold as commander of III./SS-Pz.Gren.Rgt.3 »Deutschland« (Das Reich) and all the other awards as commander of the same regiment.
His military career started in 1933 when he joined SS-Stabwache Berlin, in 1938 he was transfered to »Der Führer« Regiment. Next year he became chief of 8./SS-Inf.Rgt.11, which was incorporated in Das Reich division before Operation Barbarossa. In the battles before Moscow Eberhardt was seriously wounded, but in March he again returned to »Der Führer« Rgt. before finally being transfered to »Deutschland« Rgt.
He's final rank was Obersturmbannführer, though he was promoted to Standartenführer late in the war (in May 1945 when he was already a war prisoner) but he didn't accept it.
Günther died in 1985.

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Post by sylvieK4 » 06 Aug 2002, 22:01

Wow, Mark! Thank you for that information, and for posting the photos.

I did not realize that Eberhardt Wisliceny had such an impressive military career. Do you know which of the brothers was older, Eberhard or Dieter? (Birthdates?)

Thanks, again!

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Post by Wilfried Abenaschon » 07 Aug 2002, 03:11

Hi,
Wasn't Dieter an associate to Eichmann ? Any picture of him ?
It seems that he hasn't reached a significant rank for a such decorated soldier... How come ?
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Post by Michael Miller » 07 Aug 2002, 05:51

Here is what I currently have on G.E. Wisliceny; there may be a few errors here in dates of commands/assignments.

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WISLICENY, Günther Eberhardt
SS-Obersturmbannführer

Born: 5. Sep. 1912 in Regulowken / Kreis Angerburg /Ostpreußen.
Died: 25. Aug. 1985 in Hannover

NSDAP-Nr.: 1 187 703
SS-Nr.: 41 043

Promotions:
SS-Obersturmbannführer: 20. Apr. 1944
SS-Sturmbannführer: 20. Apr. 1943
SS-Hauptsturmführer: 2. Apr. 1940
SS-Obersturmführer: 9. Nov. 1936
SS-Untersturmführer: 10. Mar. 1935
SS-Hauptscharführer: 1. Dec. 1933
SS-Oberscharführer: 1. Oct. 1933
SS-Mann: 18. Mar. 1933

Career:
Attended Realschulen in Beuthen and Breslau: 1919 - Easter 1929. Coalminer: Mar. 1930 - 1933. Volunteered for service, assigned to SS-Stabswache Berlin (the later Leibstandarte Adolf Hitler): 18. Mar. 1933 - 1. May 1938. Attended poison gas defense course at Oranienburg: Sep./Oct. 1934. Adjutant of II.Sturmbann / LAH: 10. Mar. 1935 -1. Jun. 1937. Zugführer in 8.(Maschinengewehr-)Kompanie / LAH: 1. Jun. 1937 - 1. May 1938. Member of the Lebensborn Society: (1. Dec. 1937) - (1. Mar. 1938). MG.-Zugführer training course at Infanterie-Schule Döberitz: 1. Feb. 1938 - 10. Mar. 1938. Zugführer in 8.Kompanie / SS-Standarte "Der Führer": 1. May 1938 - 1. Sep. 1939. Adjutant of II.Bataillon / SS-Regiment "Der Führer": 1. Sep. 1939 - 1. Nov. 1939. Führer of 4.Kompanie / SS-Totenkopf-Standarte "Ostmark": 1. Nov. 1939 - 7. Dec. 1939. Führer of 8.Kompanie / SS-Totenkopf-Infanterie-Regiment 11: 7. Dec. 1939 (per SS file; E.G. Krätschmer gives 22. Oct. 1939) - 1. Feb. 1942. Assigned to Infanterie-Ersatz-Bataillon / SS-Regiment "Der Führer": 1. Feb. 1942 - 23. Mar. 1942. Führer (later Kommandeur) of III.Bataillon / SS-Panzer-Grenadier-Regiment "Der Führer": 23. Mar. 1942 - 26. Sep. 1943. Hospitalized due to wounds at SS clinic Hohenlychen: 26. Sep. 1943 -. Kommandeur of SS-Panzer-Grenadier-Regiment 3 “Deutschland” / 2.SS-Panzer “Das Reich”: 15. Mar. 1944 - 8. May 1945.

Decorations & Awards:
~ Ritterkreuz (1,912): 30. Jul. 1943 as SS-Sturmbannführer and Kommandeur of III.Bataillon / SS-Panzer-Grenadier-Regiment "Deutschland" / SS-Panzer-Grenadier-Division "Das Reich" / II.SS-Panzer-Korps / Heeresgruppe Süd, Eastern Front
~~ Eichenlaub (687.): 26. Dec. 1944 as SS-Obersturmbannführer and Kommandeur of SS-Panzer-Grenadier-Regiment 3 "Deutschland" / 2.SS-Panzer-Division "Das Reich" / Oberbefehlshaber West, Western Front
~~~ Schwertern (151.): 6. May 1945 as SS-Obersturmbannführer and Kommandeur of SS-Panzer-Grenadier-Regiment 3 "Deutschland"
~~~~ Deutsches Kreuz in Gold: 24. Apr. 1943
~~~~~ Nahkampfspange III.Stufe (Gold): 31. Mar. 1945
~~~~~~ Nahkampfspange II.Stufe (Silber): 1. Apr. 1944
~~~~~~~ Eisernes Kreuz I. Klasse: 7. Nov. 1941
~~~~~~~ Eisernes Kreuz II. Klasse: 27. Jun. 1941
Verwundetenabzeichen in Gold: 31. Mar. 1945
Verwundetenabzeichen in Silber: 1944
Infanterie-Sturmabzeichen: 1. Dec. 1941
Medaille "Winterschlacht im Osten 1941/42": 1. Aug. 1942
Goldenes Hitler-Jugend Ehrenzeichen
Ehrendegen des RF SS
Totenkopfring der SS

Postwar Confinement:
Surrendered with his Regiment to U.S. Army troops near Ennsdorf / Niederösterreich, 8. May 1945. Extradited to France, Apr. 1947. In French captivity until 12. Jul. 1951.

Notes:
* Son of a landowner who died in Mar. 1930.
* Married (wife's name: Luise).
* Home adress during WW II: Mühlentor 29 in Küstrow / Mecklenburg



And briefly on Dietrich (Dieter) Wisliceny:

WISLICENY, Dietrich (Dieter)
SS-Hauptsturmführer:

Born: 13. Jan. 1911 in Regulowken / Kreis Angerburg / Ostpreußen.
Hanged: 27. Feb. 1948 in Bratislava.

NSDAP-Nr.: 672 774 (Joined 1931)
SS-Nr.: 107 216 (Joined 1934)

Promotions:
SS-Hauptsturmführer: 1940
SS-Obersturmführer:
SS-Untersturmführer: 20. Apr. 1937

Career:
Studied theology (unsuccessfully), then briefly employed as clerk in a construction firm; unemployed thereafter. Joined NSDAP: 1931. Joined SS: Jul. 1934; assigned to Berlin SD (briefly served as Adolf Eichmann’s superior; later as his subordinate in the Central Office of Jewish Emigration): 1934 - 1937. Assigned to SD in Danzig: 1937 - 1940. Member of Lebensborn Society: (1. Dec. 1937) - (1. Mar. 1938). Advisor on Jewish matters of Amt IV-B-4 (Judent) of the RSHA to the Slovak government attached to the German delegation in Bratislava: Sep. 1940 - Sep. 1944 (involved in organizing deportation of Slovak Jews). Deportation expert in Greece, heading the Sonderkommando für Judenangelegenheiten (Special Commando for Jewish Matters) in Salonika: Jan. 1943 - 1944. Assigned to Eichmann’s Sondereinsatzkommando Ungarn, Budapest (planning and facilitating Jewish deportations from Hungary to Auschwitz-Birkenau): Mar. 1944 -

Postwar Prosecution:
Arrested by Allied authorities after the war, appearing as a witness before the International Military Tribunal, Nürnberg. Extradited to Czechoslovakia and tried by Bratislava court; sentenced to death.

Decorations & Awards:
Unknown (probably got the Kriegsverdienstkreuz I. and/or II. Klasse mit Schwertern, but he does not appear in any of the later SS-Dienstalterliste)

Notes:
* According to Robert Wistrich’s “Who’s Who in Nazi Germany”, Dieter Wisliceny “... was more concerned with money than a career, acquir[ing] a reputation in Slovakia for accepting bribes. Less fanatical than Eichmann, he accepted $50,000 from the Jewish relief committee in Bratislava for delaying deportations from Slovakia in 1942.” He continued his schemes in Budapest, bargaining with Hungarian Jewish leaders for Jewish lives; however the bribes he received did not halt the deportation trains.

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Mark Y , Mark C & Michael : Thank U!

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Post by David Thompson » 08 Aug 2002, 03:17

Dieter Wisliceny's postwar affidavit is posted at the Web Genocide Documentation Centre at http://164.11.131.30/genocide/wisliceny.htm. His Nuernberg trial testimony is available at the Avalon Project, http://yale.edu/lawweb/avalon/imt/proc/v4menu.htm, at pp. 354-372.

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Post by Jimmy » 20 Dec 2005, 22:20

SS Sturmbannfuhrer Dieter Wisliceny was Eichmans deputy, Eichman even called one of his sons after him. After the war Wisliceny offered to help the allies find Eichman, but he was hanged anyway source- Nuremberg - The Last Battle by David Irving
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Dieter Wisliceny Statement

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Post by jv » 21 Dec 2005, 00:46

Jimmy wrote:SS Sturmbannfuhrer Dieter Wisliceny was Eichmans deputy, Eichman even called one of his sons after him. After the war Wisliceny offered to help the allies find Eichman, but he was hanged anyway source- Nuremberg - The Last Battle by David Irving
Correct. In his gaol in Bratislava (1946) Dieter Wisliceny wrote this statement (published in Eichmann by Pearlmann) that Eichmann was still alive and that he could find him. jv
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Post by Jimmy » 21 Dec 2005, 19:09

Jimmy wrote:SS Sturmbannfuhrer Dieter Wisliceny was Eichmans deputy, Eichman even called one of his sons after him. After the war Wisliceny offered to help the allies find Eichman, but he was hanged anyway source- Nuremberg - The Last Battle by David Irving
the pic was missing!!!!!!!!!!!
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Dieter Wisliceny

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Post by jv » 22 Dec 2005, 00:52

Jimmy wrote:
Jimmy wrote:SS Sturmbannfuhrer Dieter Wisliceny was Eichmans deputy, Eichman even called one of his sons after him. After the war Wisliceny offered to help the allies find Eichman, but he was hanged anyway source- Nuremberg - The Last Battle by David Irving
the pic was missing!!!!!!!!!!!
Hi, now compare this picture with his picture during his trial. He had lost some weight, I guess. jv
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Re: Günther-Eberhard Wisliceny & Dieter Wisliceny

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Post by Phil Nix » 09 Nov 2008, 13:15

Here is another pic of Dieter Wisliceny
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Re: Günther-Eberhard Wisliceny & Dieter Wisliceny

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Post by J. Duncan » 11 Nov 2008, 22:10

The loss of weight in Dieter is quite a contrast. Maybe he had cancer or the results of a prison diet perhaps. He definately quite fat during his years of power. I read also that even though Dieter and Eichmann were drinking and social companions (Dieter was actually instrumental in Eichmann's rise within the SS - refer to book: Quentin Reynolds "Minister of Death")...Dieter was passed over for promotion because he was otherwise a bachelor or he had no children or both. I can't exactly remember without the book in fron of me. Thanks for re-posting the pictures. Fascinating since you can't find him photographed in most books.

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