Kripo Officers - Łódź Ghetto Koscielny Square

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Re: Kripo Officers - Łódź Ghetto Koscielny Square

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Post by George_W » 11 Oct 2020, 11:10

According to BBL 25/1941 from 05.07.1941 KR Dr. Krömer was promoted KD with Kripo Litzmannstadt.

Unfortunately no further informations about that officer...

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Re: Kripo Officers - Łódź Ghetto Koscielny Square

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Post by Puck » 11 Oct 2020, 11:55

Hi George,

KD Dr.Krömer was in 10.1942 still in Lodz
https://www.google.de/url?sa=t&rct=j&q= ... LJLv2QIk_q

I spent a few minutes with google and found a Kriminalrat Dr. Paul Krömer in Beuthen, Parkstr.19 (Adressbook Beuthen/OS 1937) :wink:
1937 Krömer, Paul Dr..jpg
1937 Krömer, Paul Dr..jpg (92.59 KiB) Viewed 815 times
Might be the man ..

And from https://silo.tips/queue/quellen-zur-uni ... I1NC44MQ==
Wieder-Zulassung des wegen Beleidigung seines jüdischen Kommilitonen Moll von der Universität Breslau verwiesenen stud. phil. bzw. Einjährig-Freiwilligen Paul Krömer aus Rybnik, 1881

This one would be to old ..

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Re: Kripo Officers - Łódź Ghetto Koscielny Square

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Post by Puck » 11 Oct 2020, 13:16

As far as I understand was KII/5 responsible for the ghetto

from Personalverteilungsplan Kripoleitstelle Lodz - Stand 20.11.1940
1940-11 Lodz, Ghettokommissariat.jpg
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KK Nitzsche, Otto - SS-Hstf
KOA Sievers, Ludwig - SS-Hschf
KOA Jansen, Eugen - SS-Hschf
KOA Neumann, Wilhelm - SS-Ostf
KA Königsdorf, ?
KA Metjengerdes, ?
KA Mitteldorf, Walter
apl. KA Golgowski, Hans

Krim.Ang. Auerbach, Adolf
Krim.Ang. Behnke, Arno
Krim.Ang. Pappik, ?
Krim.Ang. Sutter, Alfons
Krim.Ang. Voigt, Wilhelm
Krim.Ang. Weber, ?
Krim.Ang. Wentser, Erik

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Re: Kripo Officers - Łódź Ghetto Koscielny Square

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Post by steve248 » 12 Oct 2020, 09:30

Dr Paul Krömer (born 2 April 1891); his BBL listings use the umlaut.
He came from Kripo Braunschweig to Litzmannstadt

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Post by smetanin albert » 15 Jun 2021, 14:27

About Behnke
Attachments
behnke.jpg
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Re: Kripo Officers - Łódź Ghetto Koscielny Square

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Post by steve248 » 15 Jun 2021, 18:38

Albert's image above refers to the Stapostelle Lodz/Litzmannstadt.
The unfortunate Oskar Golz had just turned 19 years old when he died (born 18 Jan 1922)

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Re: Kripo Officers - Łódź Ghetto Koscielny Square

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Post by Puck » 25 Aug 2021, 14:15

steve248 wrote:
15 Jun 2021, 18:38
Albert's image above refers to the Stapostelle Lodz/Litzmannstadt.
The unfortunate Oskar Golz had just turned 19 years old when he died (born 18 Jan 1922)
That's quite interesting - I found a Oskar Albert Golz alive in 1947 as inmate in CIC Sandbostel

assigned BdS Oslo and KdS Tromso from 1941 to 1945
Golz, Oskar Albert.jpg
may be twins, theft of identity or false information of Stapo Lodz?

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PS:
I have a problem with the location "Nepomik", any help ?

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Re: Kripo Officers - Łódź Ghetto Koscielny Square

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Post by steve248 » 25 Aug 2021, 17:35

Nepomuk is in CZ and was a Funk training school.

Oskar Albert Golz identified by Puck is problematical with the document posted by Albert S (post #20 above).
I had this Oskar Albert Golz at BdS Oslo as a Funker but only a SS-Schaf - he must have been the youngest SS-Stuschaf in the Sipo as shown in Puck's post. Being a Funker his Polizei rank may have been Kriminalangestellter (A)

The Oskar Albert Golz who died in Litzmannstadt is noted in the document as Kriminangestellter (K) for Kraftfahrer.

I identified O A Golz as born 18 Jan 1922 & died from a Bundesarchiv Ludwigsburg document. Maybe the prosecutors took the easy way out and believed the dead Golz was the 18 Jan 1922 guy. One of the problems with 1960-1980 Ludwigsburg documents where they try to identify people is sometimes they made a wrong conclusion - this was due to the fact they did not have historians on the staff of any of the Staatsanwaltenschaften with the ability to check archives in person.

So if the dead Golz in Litzmannstadt was not born on 18 Jan 1922 - he was born at a different time and I doubt twins both had the same names....

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Re: Kripo Officers - Łódź Ghetto Koscielny Square

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Post by Puck » 25 Aug 2021, 17:47

Hi Steve,

thank you for the clarification about "Nepomik"
I think your explanation about the investigation-procedures is quite understandable

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Re: Kripo Officers - Łódź Ghetto Koscielny Square

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Post by Wkwk » 29 Jul 2022, 23:44

Hello,
Does anyone have more info about Arno Behnke? Are there photos, date of birth or any other identifying information? Or do you know how I could track down more info? Thanks in advance.

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Re: Kripo Officers - Łódź Ghetto Koscielny Square

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Post by smetanin albert » 30 Jul 2022, 06:24

Maybe

R 9361-VI/6961
Behnke, Arno
Bestandsbezeichnung - Sammlung Berlin Document Center (BDC): Personenbezogene Unterlagen von Gliederungen der NSDAP und angeschlossenen Verbänden
Geburtsdatum - 4.2.1908
Unterlagenart - Sachakte
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Re: Kripo Officers - Łódź Ghetto Koscielny Square

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Post by Wkwk » 30 Jul 2022, 07:32

Thank you for sharing this information. I appreciate it.

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Re: Kripo Officers - Łódź Ghetto Koscielny Square

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Post by steve248 » 30 Jul 2022, 09:36

25 Nov 1940, Personalverteilungsplan of Kripostelle Litzmannstadt, lists Kriminal Angestellte Arno Behnke, with Kriminalinspektion II/5
source: https://szukajwarchiwach.pl/2/1335/0/8. ... 7IihjwXzfw

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Re: Kripo Officers - Łódź Ghetto Koscielny Square

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Post by Wkwk » 30 Jul 2022, 11:26

Sorry, steve248, I can’t find the information at this link? Is there a middle name for this Arno Behnke?

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Re: Kripo Officers - Łódź Ghetto Koscielny Square

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Post by Puck » 30 Jul 2022, 14:09

from Personalverteilungsplan Kripostelle Lodz (Stand: 20.11.1940)
Kripo Lodz Personalverteilungsplan 1940-11-20 (3).jpg

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