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List of Waffen führer der SS and assignments 13-mar.-1945

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Soobzokov

Post by steve248 » 17 Jun 2005 13:24

Tscherim Soobzokov who appears on the first page emigrated to the USA in the 1950s.
He was later investigated by OSI for crimes committed in the Soviet Union. Nothing was
ever proved but Soobzokov was assassinated by a bomb in 1985 at his New Jersey home.

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Post by Jochen S. » 17 Jun 2005 14:32

Interesting to mention that this document is also signed by SS.Ostuf. Arndt Fischer, former adjutant of I./SS.Pz.Rgt.1 LSSAH.

He got severly wounded during the Ardennes campaign and served inside the Reich as Führer der 2.Ausbildungskompanie till April 1945.

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Post by David Thompson » 17 Jun 2005 15:58

Soobzokov, Tscherim (c. 1924-6.9.1985) – {entered US 1952 from Amman, Jordan; listed by the US Immigration and Naturalization Service as being under investigation 5 Jun 1974 for war crimes activities (NYT 6 Jun 1974:30:3); US Department of Justice Office of Special Investigations (OSI) moves to revoke US citizenship Dec 1979; OSI moves for dismissal of revocation proceedings on grounds that Soobzokov disclosed his membership in the North Caucasus Legion of the Waffen-SS when he entered US (NYT 10 Jul 1980:II:2:1); critically injured 15 Aug 1985 by pipe bomb explosion at his house at Paterson NJ (NYT 16 Aug 1985:II:2:1; NYT 17 Aug 1985:27:3); died of injuries 6 Sept 1985 (NYT 7 Sept 1985:25:2; NYT 15 Sept 1985:XI:8:5).}

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Post by Mikedc » 17 Jun 2005 16:00

Wow, very interesting lists.
Thanks for posting these lists logibear64.

But what are they, are they Russians, Latvians, or otherwise?????
And where they all in the army from their homecountry before entering the Waffen-SS???

Anyone who can tell me more about these men is welcome to do so, for me they're all unknown.
And I'm almost sure that almost none of them appears in my files(that also consists of a large number
of foreign SS-officers).


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List of Waffen führer der SS and assignments 13-mar.-1945

Post by logibear64 » 17 Jun 2005 23:29

The list of all Waffen-führer with date of promotion and unit of assignment. This list is a mixture of ethnic groups and formations. There are other lists in which about 90% are Latvians or Estonians. This is on of the more diverse ones.







Mikedc wrote:Wow, very interesting lists.
Thanks for posting these lists logibear64.

But what are they, are they Russians, Latvians, or otherwise?????
And where they all in the army from their homecountry before entering the Waffen-SS???

Anyone who can tell me more about these men is welcome to do so, for me they're all unknown.
And I'm almost sure that almost none of them appears in my files(that also consists of a large number
of foreign SS-officers).


Greetings,
Mike

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Post by David Thompson » 18 Jun 2005 07:48

de Mayol de Lupe (Lupé), Jean Comte (21.1.1873-6.1956) [Waffen-Sturmbannfuehrer] – French collaborator; service with 33rd Waffen Grenadier Division {arrested by American troops in Mar 1945; extradited to France; put on trial for collaboration by a French court; convicted and sentenced to 15 years imprisonment, national degradation (dégradation nationale) and confiscation of property 14 May 1947; conditionally released May 1951; retired to his home in Lupe; died Jun 1956 (S.K.Kitson@bham.ac.uk). (Uebernahme von Offizieren fremder Wehrmachten, 13.3.1945)}

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logibear64 wrote

Post by Mikedc » 18 Jun 2005 09:51

The list of all Waffen-führer with date of promotion and unit of assignment. This list is a mixture of ethnic groups and formations. There are other lists in which about 90% are Latvians or Estonians. This is on of the more diverse ones.



Hello logibear62,

Thanks for the explanation. And I know about the Latvians and Estonians.
I do visit the collaboration-section of this forum frequently as well and I already have quite a number of officers
that are coming from Estonia or Latvia. Also on the internet there's enough to find about these countries.
But I checked my files and around 90% of the names in these two lists of your are indeed totally new for me.

So therefor I already thank David who gave us this nice and usefull info about Lupé.
If somebody has some info on the other officers mentioned in these two lists, hopefully they're willing to share that info
with us.

Thanks,
Mike

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Post by Mikedc » 23 Jun 2005 23:58

Hello logibear62,

I can't read the familyname from the first Waffen-Hauptsturmführer on list nr. 1
First name is Otto but what's his familyname???
Hope you're able to tell me???

And I can't read the familyname from the fifth Waffen-Obersturmführer on list nr. 1
First name is Ramasan but what's his familyname???
Hope you're able to tell me???


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Post by logibear64 » 24 Jun 2005 00:22

I regret to say the imperfection is in the original document. Since I did not copy the entire roll it is possible the names are clearer elsewhere. However, earlier lists that I have do not list either names with similar birthdates and first names.

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Post by Mikedc » 24 Jun 2005 09:10

I understand and it's no big deal, was just asking.

But some less names in my files will make no big difference, it's already an almost
impossible task so I take what I can find.

Thanks for your efforts.

Mike

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Post by Panzermahn » 24 Jun 2005 12:34

David Thompson wrote:de Mayol de Lupe (Lupé), Jean Comte (21.1.1873-6.1956) [Waffen-Sturmbannfuehrer] – French collaborator; service with 33rd Waffen Grenadier Division {arrested by American troops in Mar 1945; extradited to France; put on trial for collaboration by a French court; convicted and sentenced to 15 years imprisonment, national degradation (dégradation nationale) and confiscation of property 14 May 1947; conditionally released May 1951; retired to his home in Lupe; died Jun 1956 (S.K.Kitson@bham.ac.uk). (Uebernahme von Offizieren fremder Wehrmachten, 13.3.1945)}


He was the Catholic Chaplain that served from the LVF Legion and then the 33rd Waffen Grenadier Division der SS "Charlemagne"
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Post by Requin Marteau » 24 Jun 2005 16:13

David Thompson wrote:de Mayol de Lupe (Lupé), Jean Comte (21.1.1873-6.1956) [Waffen-Sturmbannfuehrer] – French collaborator; service with 33rd Waffen Grenadier Division {arrested by American troops in Mar 1945; extradited to France; put on trial for collaboration by a French court; convicted and sentenced to 15 years imprisonment, national degradation (dégradation nationale) and confiscation of property 14 May 1947; conditionally released May 1951; retired to his home in Lupe; died Jun 1956 (S.K.Kitson@bham.ac.uk). (Uebernahme von Offizieren fremder Wehrmachten, 13.3.1945)}


Bonjour,
Bio in French (incomplete)

SS STUBAF
Comte Jean de MAYOL de LUPE


«Monsignore» de la curie romaine et aumônier de la LVF, puis de la Charlemagne. Né à Paris le 21 janvier 1873, du Vicomte Henri de LUPE et d’Elisabeth de CARACCIOLO-GIRIFALCO. Entré à 16 ans à l’abbaye bénédictine de Ligugé, en Poitou, il est ordonné prêtre le 10 juin 1900. Mobilisé en 1914, comme aumônier militaire à la 1re Division de Cavalerie, fait prisonnier en septembre 1914, libéré en 1916, retourne au front en 1917 sert en Champagne, à Verdun, il est grièvement blessé sur la Somme, à la fin de l’été 1918 (13 citations dont 3 à l’ordre de l’armée, 16 décorations), aumônier dans l’armées d’Orient (1921-1924) et au Maroc (1924-1926), démobilisé comme Capitaine en 1927, ami intime de PIE XII, confident de CAILLAUX et de LYAUTEY, il devient chapelain d’une famille princière et voyage beaucoup à travers l’Europe. Peu avant la guerre, il fait la connaissance, à Nuremberg en avril 1938 d’Otto ABETZ et de son ami WESTRICK. Dès 1941, se porte volontaire à la LVF, part le 1er octobre 1941 pour le camp de Deba, aumônier du III./638. IR, aumônier général de la LVF le 20 octobre 1943, affecté à l’état-major du régiment, présent sur le front de mai 1942-février 1944, blessé en juin 1942.
Il avait toujours refusé de porter l’écusson tricolore et s’était fait relever de cette obligation par l’OKW. Il ne reconnaissait pas l’abdication des BOURBONS, pas plus que le drapeau républicain. Il conservait dans ses cantines le pavillon blanc Royal Fleurdelisé, et le Grand Collier de l’Ordre du St Esprit, la plus ancienne décoration française, drapeau et décoration personnels de CHARLES X qui les avait remis à son père à la veille des «3 Glorieuses» de 1830. Le drapeau devait lui servir de linceul quand il trouverait la mort dont il rêvait, celle du soldat, et il avait porté le Grand Cordon de l’Ordre du St Esprit pour venir absoudre les morts, à Bobr, en première ligne au mois de juin 1944.
Agé de prés de 70 ans, il sera 2 fois blessé, depuis 1942, le Comte JEAN, commandait la LVF «in partibus». Lorsqu’il accompagnait les unités en opération l’été, car l’hiver il se voyait contraint de regagner le France, il chevauchait son grand cheval, torse nu, un énorme pistolet parabellum pendu sur la cuisse, un lourd crucifix de cuivre planté dans le ceinturon. Rejoint la Waffen SS, trop âgé pour partir en Poméranie, il s’installe à Munich.
En 1945, MAYOL de LUPE, en tenue de SS HSTUF, avec toutes ses décorations vint demander asile à un monastère, arrêté et transféré à Paris, incarcéré à la Santé, il est âgé de 73 ans. Son procès se déroule le 13 mai 1947, devant la Cour de justice de Paris, accusé de collaboration notoire et de port de décorations ennemies, condamné à 15 ans de réclusion, à la confiscation de ses biens et à l’indignité nationale, il à 74 ans, interné au camp de la Châtaigneraie, à la Celle-Saint-Cloud, c’est en prison qu’il célèbre, en juin 1950, son jubilé sacerdotal, et qu’il assiste, la veille de Noël de la même année, son petit-neveu Luigi de MAYOL de LUPE, dont la vocation est née au camp de Rawa-Ruska où il était interné, et qui vient célébrer sa première messe dans sa cellule, gracié, libéré en juin 1951, agé de 78 ans, célèbre le mariage de son secrétaire-officier d’ordonnance, Henri CHEVEAU.
Le 23 juin 1955, «Monsignore» MAYOL de LUPE s’éteint à son domicile, avenue Emile-Acollas, à Paris, il fut porté en terre sur les épaules des 6 hommes de LUPE, anciens prisonniers de guerre qui lui devaient leur libération anticipée. Il repose dans le caveau de famille de LUPE.

- Croix de Guerre 1914-1918 avec 3 palmes et 10 étoiles,
- Chevalier de la Légion d’Honneur (1924),
- Officier de la Légion d’Honneur (1938),
- EK-II (14 juin 1942),
- Verwunten Abzeichen in Schwarz,
- KVK-II mit Schwertern et citation : «Engagé des premiers, malgré son grand âge, à la LVF, s’est dépensé sans compter sous le feu, comme à l’arrière, soignant les blessés, consolant les mourants, donnant aux héros tombés une sépulture digne d’eux;
Père spirituel de la Légion, a, par sa connaissance approfondie du moral des légionnaires, grâce à la vénération et à la confiance, dont chacun d’eux l’entoure, facilité grandement la tache du commandant de la Légion.»,
- EK-I,
- Croix de Guerre Légionnaire (27 août 1944),
- la collection complète des médailles de l’empire,
- des distinctions anglaises et pontificales,
- Pendu sur la poitrine : le Grand collier de l’Ordre du St Esprit.

Thierry

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Post by Mikedc » 24 Jun 2005 16:26

Hello Thierry,

Thanks for this great bio, although it's in French language. Will be hard for me to translate to Dutch language but to make my file about this officer a bit more complete I'll surely try.

And I wanna thank Panzermahn also for the additional info and of course for the great picture, this is really nice.


Still I have some questions for logibear64 regarding list number two.
There are some unitnames I can't read that well, hope you can help me with it.
With Jon Baciu it's Waffen-Gren. Rgt. ?????
With Janis Cintinsch it's SS-Gren. A.u.E. Btl. ????
With Stefan Cojocaru it's Waffen-Gren. ??????
With Achmet Dikajew it's ??????
With Clement Dornier it's ??? Waffen-Gren. Div. der SS


Thanks,
Mike

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