Whom were SS-Staf.?

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Re: Whom were SS-Staf.?

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Post by Georg_S » 06 Oct 2020, 17:50

Hello

Old thread but I will update some info on August Mutschler. According to late Phil. He was attached to SS-FHA between 1940-1945, but I found a document from SS-FHA which says that he was at SS-HA in 1944 attached to Kdt.Zug (?) but in August 1944 he was transfered to SS-Helferinnenschule Oberrehnheim. After that is to my knowledge unknown.

He also was awarded some more awards then Phil was aware of. See attached screendump from my project.

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from SSO Mutschler
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Re: Arthur Erdmann

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Post by ImDol63a » 05 Jul 2021, 01:24

In the 1980s, I lived for several years at the address, "Im Dol 63a," in Berlin as a member of the U.S. Forces. The house, I believe, had been confiscated from the German state after the war. I found the name "Arthur Erdmann" in an online Berlin address registry under the address "Im Dol 63a". Seeking to gain more information on who Arthur Erdmann was led me, after a good bit of googling, to the wealth of information in the Axis History Forum.

Can anyone on the Forum point me to information that could confirm my suspicion that the Arthur Erdmann listed at Im Dol 63a and the SS-Hauptsturmführer Arthur Erdmann are one and the same?

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Post by smetanin albert » 05 Jul 2021, 07:07

SS-Staf. Erdmann.
He was born in Berlin (had relatives in Berlin).
He lived in Neheim (after the war).
†18.07.74, Bad Tölz.
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Post by Georges JEROME » 05 Jul 2021, 10:01

Arthur Erdmann
Lt. der Reserve (Reserve Inf. Rgt. 39 1916-1918)
EK-I and EK-II
work in a bank
mobilisation in Totenkopfstandarte then Waffen-SS reserve
1939-1940 11.Tot. Standarte (Kp. führer)
1941 Kp. führer I/SS-inf. Rgt. 11
1941-1942 Inf. Ersatz Bataillon Ost
1942 Kp. führer in 1. SS Inf. Brigade
1943 IIa 1.SS-Inf. Brigade
30.01.43 SS-Stubaf. der Reserve der Waffen-SS

1943 stab Befehlshaber der Waffen-SS Russland Sud
1944 Reserveführer beim Stabsabteilung der Waffen-SS SS-Personalhauptamt
1944-1945 Hauptabteilungleiter in Amt V SS-Führungshauptamt
30.01.45 SS-Obersturmbannführer der Reserve der Waffen-SS
20.04.45 SS-Standartenführer der Reserve der Waffen-SS
after the war created the HIAG Group in Bad Tölz
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Re: Whom were SS-Staf.?

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Post by ImDol63a » 08 Aug 2021, 21:05

Dear Albert, dear Jerome,
Thanks so much for this information.
Could either of you (or someone else on the Forum) point me to books or articles about HIAG? I'd like to read up and, with luck, might find some more about Erdmann.
As ever,
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Post by ImDol63a » 09 Aug 2021, 00:11

Apologies: I meant to write "Georges."

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Re: Whom were SS-Staf.?

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Post by ImDol63a » 13 Sep 2021, 02:25

Dear Georges,
Thanks enormously for your response of 05 July 2021. I've been working hard, as time permits, on "Arthur Erdmann." I have three questions for you:
1. First, your response indicated that Erdmann served in the "Inf. Ersatz Bataillon Ost" from 1941-1942 and it was only in 1942 that he was in the 1. SS Infanterie Brigade. Other posts on Erdmann (including the handwritten index card from Phil Nix and an earlier post by you dated 29 April 2009) and the listing in Tixier's book do not mention service in the Infanterie Ersatzbataillon Ost." Can you clarify the situation?
2. Second, what are the primary sources for your posts and those of Phil Dix and others with respect to Erdmann? I've sent a query to the Bundesarchiv (which holds the old "WAST" files) as well as to Laender archival authorities in Germany who may have documents related to denazification. Where else might I usefully look? (The National Archives in Washington did a search and found nothing; I've gone back to them with a request for a copy of Erdmann's NSDAP membership card from their microfilm copy of the former BDC files.)
3. With respect to Erdmann's post-war activities in HIAG, what are the best sources for information and do you know if there are electronic copies of "Der Freiwillige" available on the Internet? (My search so far has yielded nothing other than that hard-copy versions are available at a number of university libraries in Germany.)
Huge thanks for any aid you can lend!
Sincerely,
John Byerly

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Post by smetanin albert » 15 Sep 2021, 09:37

from SSO Erdmann
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Post by ImDol63a » 15 Sep 2021, 22:59

Dear Albert,
Huge thanks. Could you tell me what "SSO" below the entry means? Is this the source of the document in question?
For you and others interested in Erdmann, I have just obtained an excerpt from post-World War II prisoner records showing Erdmann imprisoned in the (once Nazi German, but by then American) camp "Hammelburg" from 18 December 1946 until his release on 19 April 1948. In November 1947, he left Hammelburg and was in Nuernberg for three week before returning to Hammelburg: I suspect for a trial or other form of denazification proceeding but that's just my hunch. I'll research this some more. I can attach the excerpt I received (from the Staatsarchiv of Baden-Wuerttenberg) once I figure out how to do attachments on the Forum. Apologies for being a novice.
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Re: Whom were SS-Staf.?

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Post by ImDol63a » 15 Sep 2021, 23:22

Dear Albert,
Looking at this more closely, I'm now confused. Earlier Forum entries indicated that Erdmann was in SS-Infanterie Regiment 11 [eleven], but the entry on the document you provided refers to 1./SS Inf. Rgt. 10 [ten]. My understanding is that Erdmann was earlier in the 11th Totenkopfstandarte. The unit was redesignated “SS-Infanterie-Regiment 11” in February 1941 and attached to the SS-Infanterie-Division (motorized) “Das Reich.” Is the "10" [ten} simply an error or is something else going on?
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Post by smetanin albert » 16 Sep 2021, 07:23

SSO (Source: NARA College Park, Md--Record Group 242, Microfilm Pub A3343) - is the personal files of SS officers.

analogue of a personal file in Berlin - R 9361-III/523252 (Personalakte von Erdmann).

I have a small personal file (4 sheets) from "Moore's Lists" and similar two sheets from another source.

According to the records:
1.03.40-20.12.40: 11 TK-Standarte;
20.12.40-10.03.41: 10 TK-Standarte;

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Post by smetanin albert » 16 Sep 2021, 07:25

There are other documents in Berlin,
for example - NS 34/551 (Personalunterlagen).
It contains Erdmann's personal card / file.
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Post by smetanin albert » 16 Sep 2021, 07:36

P.S. Georg_S has a complete collection of magazines "Der Freiwillige".
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Post by smetanin albert » 16 Sep 2021, 07:44

In Berlin, there is another personal file of the officer (RuSHA files) containing information and photographs of relatives - R 9361-III/39736

Name - Knubben, Helena
Geburtsdatum - 6.1.1902
Geburtsort - Haaren

Name - Korth, Helena
Geburtsdatum - 6.1.1902
Geburtsort - Haaren.

The card contains other data
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