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SIPO & SD in France?

Post by jv » 19 Sep 2005 00:40

As I am interested in this topic I sent it in recently under another post heading. I was wondering if a member of the forum could confirm the accuracy of this information and/or if it needs corrections or additional details. I am sending it in again as a separate post for this reason. Thanks. jv

The organisational structure of the SIPO & SD in France:

Chef, BdS SS Standartenfuehrer Dr Helmut Knochen
(Adjutants: SS Obersturmbannfuehrer Dr Lischka, SS Obersturmbannfuehrer Henschke

Bureau 1 (Administration): SS Hauptsturmfuehrer Frank, SS Hauptsturmfuehrer Altenloh (60 staff)
Bureau 2 (Liaison with the French police): SS Sturmbannfuehrer Dr Mayer, SS Sturmbannfuehrer Dr Laube (40 staff)
Bureau 3 (Propaganda): SS Hauptsturmfuehrer Dr Maulaz, SS Sturmbannfuehrer Dr Biederbick (60 staff)
Bureau 4 ('Gestapo'): SS Sturmbannfuehrer Boemelburg, SS Sturmbannfuehrer Stindt (ca 100 staff more towards the end of the war)
Bureau 5 ('Kripo'): SS Sturmbannfuehrer Odewald (70 staff)
Bureau 6 (Espionage): SS Sturmbannfuehrer Hagen, SS Standartenfuehrer Bickler (70-100 staff)
Bureau 7 (Ideology): SS Sturmbannfuehrer Dr Biederbick (actually under the auspices of Berlin)

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Post by Georges JEROME » 19 Sep 2005 17:28

SS Ostubaf Dr Kurt LISCHKA was not adjudant but stellvertreter Befehlshaber der Sipo SD Paris (deputy) and in personalunion Kdr der Sipo SD Paris
he was succeded by SS Ostubaf Hans Henschke.


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SIPO & SD in France

Post by jv » 20 Sep 2005 00:09

JEROME Georges wrote:SS Ostubaf Dr Kurt LISCHKA was not adjudant but stellvertreter Befehlshaber der Sipo SD Paris (deputy) and in personalunion Kdr der Sipo SD Paris
he was succeded by SS Ostubaf Hans Henschke.


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Merci Georges,
Thanks for this info. The second names in the list are the successors. It's worth observing that few of main players in France actually saw their true justice. If it had not been for the indefatigable efforts of a Beate Klarsfeld some would have escaped justice at all (Lischka being a case in point). jv

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Re: SIPO & SD in France ?

Post by danyb » 21 Sep 2014 17:10

hello !

i'm looking for additionnals infos about these men:

SS.Hstuf Fritz Baucklow (Gestapo St-Quentin)
and
SS.Ustuf Kurt Abendroth (Gestapo Lons-le-Saunier)

thanks
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Re: SIPO & SD in France ?

Post by Mikedc » 21 Sep 2014 21:16

Hello Dany,
I don't have Fritz Baucklow in my files and I also didn't find anything on him.
Instead I found:
Friedrich Bauckloh
Member SS: 230.010
Promoted to SS-Untersturmführer on 30-01-1939
I also found an SS-Scharführer Bauckloh who was with Zentralabteilung I 3 from Amt I within the SD-Hauptamt in 1937.

And this is what I've on Kurt Abendroth:
Born on 06-01-1898 in Benneckenstein
Member NSDAP: 257.670
Member SS: 390.444
In 1944 he was employed within the Staff from the IdS in Hamburg
Promoted to SS-Untersturmführer on 21-06-1944
In 1945 he was still alive

Greetings, Mike

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Re: SIPO & SD in France ?

Post by Georges JEROME » 21 Sep 2014 22:26

Hello Dany,



On 1940 Ostuf Friedrich Bauckloh (not Baucklow) was appointed to Sonderkommando Nachrichtendienst in Stab Beauftragter CSSD at Paris. Then became chef Referat Exploitation in Einsatz Kommando Paris (Knochen).
On 1941 1942 leiter Referat VI B in Paris
mid 42 moved to Saint Quentin to lead abt. VI next to kdS Saint Quentin
became Stell. KdS Saint Quentin until 44.



Kriminal kommissar Ustuf Abendrot was appointed leiter Aussenstelle Lons-le-Saulnier (Jura) on november 42. Then sent to Lyon on autumn 43. Due to lack of results, he was sent as Leiter Aussendienstelle Valence (Drôme) up to 44.

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Re: SIPO & SD in France?

Post by danyb » 22 Sep 2014 16:03

hello !

Merci Mike et Georges. :)

i'm looking for infos about these men:

Willy Behr (Gestapo Argelés-Gazos)
and
Bernhard Askamp (Gestapo Amiens)

thanks
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Re: SIPO & SD in France?

Post by Mikedc » 22 Sep 2014 19:55

Hello Georges,
Thank you for the extra info on Friedrich 'Fritz' Bauckloh.

But instead of Abendroth you wrote Abendrot.
Does this mean it's not the same person as Kurt Abendroth ??
I mean, you tell us that KK and Ustuf Abendrot was appointed Leiter Aussenstelle Lons-le-Saulnier (Jura) on november 42.
But Kurt Abendroth was appointed on 21-06-1944 only.

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Re: SIPO & SD in France?

Post by Georges JEROME » 22 Sep 2014 20:13

of course it's "Abendroth"
Thanks to correct it.

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Re: SIPO & SD in France?

Post by Georges JEROME » 22 Sep 2014 21:03

Willy Behr nickname Cesar was leiter Grenzpolizeiposten Argelès-Gazost (staff of 6 men) Under KdS Toulouse.
Crowcass (US list of war criminals) dated june 48 list :
Behr (born in 1898) Commercial Traveller Gestapo and SD Lot and Garonne Area. Wanted for Murder. (Lot et Garonne was another departement Under authority of KdS Toulouse)

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Re: SIPO & SD in France?

Post by danyb » 24 Sep 2014 16:21

hello !

Merci Georges :)

i'm looking for infos about these men:

Georg Röder (Gestapo Charleville)
and
Robert Glowalla (Gestapo Charleville)

thanks
danyb

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Re: SIPO & SD in France?

Post by Georges JEROME » 24 Sep 2014 18:06

SS-Obersturmführer Georg Röder was the first kdr Aussendienstelle Sipo SD Charleville (covering Ardennes) . He was then appointed as Leiter Aussenposten SIPO SD Brest up to 1944.

SS-Untersturmführer Robert Glowalla succeded to him at Charleville up to 1944.

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Re: SIPO & SD in France?

Post by radevich » 24 Sep 2014 20:13

hello !

maybe someone has information infos about these men?

Hstuf EIDEL, K. (Aussenkommando der SIPO und des SD Brest)

K.d.S. Bordeaux:
Abt.I:
Hschaf KAERTEL
Hschaf. SIEBENHAAR.
Uschaf. PETERS.

Abt. II & III: Ostuf. BRAUN.
Uschaf Dr. BOERDE

IV A: Ustuf SCHOEDER
IV B(?):Ustuf DOBERSCHUTZ
IVE: Ustuf. LOEBLICH

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Re: SIPO & SD in France?

Post by Georges JEROME » 24 Sep 2014 22:39

Ustuf Otto Doberschütz appointed leiter Grenzpolizei-kommissariat Pau (Basse Pyrénées) on 12/43. Sent to Staff KdS Bordeaux on may 44.
Ustuf Löblich deputize leiter Grenzpolizei-Kommissariat Perpignan (Pyrénées Orientales) on april 44.

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Re: SIPO & SD in France?

Post by radevich » 25 Sep 2014 17:03

Thank you Georges!

may be other persons:

K.d.S. Bordeaux:
Abt. V: Ustuf KUDELL.
Uschaf SPIRA.

Sipo & SD Aussenkommando Bayonne:
Hstuf SCHMIDT.
Oschaf ENZELSBERGER.

SD Sonderkommando Biarritz: Oschaf. WOLTER

Sipo & SD Aussenkommando Dax: Ustuf LAUTENBERGER
Sipo & SD Aussenkommando Orthez: Sonderführer PRAEKEL
St. Jean de Luz: BERGMANN.
St. Jean Pied de Port: Schulter

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