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Re: SIPO & SD in France?

Post by danyb » 17 Mar 2021 08:29

hello !

Thank You Mike for your compliment and encouragement :wink:

@Steve

for Klumpp , this is the name available in my files.
he served in SIPO-SD Bordeaux between may-august 1944.
after the war , he was in french custody but released without trial.

do you have infos about the fate of Erich Stubbe (KdS Toulouse) ??
i know that he was in french custody , but not if he was put on trial.

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Re: SIPO & SD in France?

Post by ansata1976 » 17 Mar 2021 11:25

Wilhelm Funke (?) sentenced to death (in absentia) Gestapo Saint-Brieuc
What is his date and place of birth? When and where was the trial? What was his SS rank? Was sentenced alone in his trial?

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Re: SIPO & SD in France?

Post by danyb » 24 Mar 2021 12:32

hello !

I`m looking for infos on two men:

-a SS-Hstuf. named Hartmann
-a SS-Ustuf. named Roth

both members of SIPO\SD in Saint-Brieuc (KdS Rennes)

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Re: SIPO & SD in France?

Post by smetanin albert » 24 Mar 2021 13:43

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Re: SIPO & SD in France?

Post by steve248 » 25 Mar 2021 17:05

The Uniformtraeger SS-Ustuf. Theodor Roth quoted above by Albert is probably the only Roth who could fit with the position.

But....KS (later KOS) Theodor Roth was about 60 years old in 1945 (making him born 1885 or so) and from the Kripo Monchen-Gladbach. I have him only at KdS St Quentin, but reported in France 1940-1944.

There seems to have been a lot of Sipo-SD officers at St Brieuc (see earlier posts). Are you sure Hartmann and Roth were officers?

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Re: SIPO & SD in France?

Post by danyb » 27 Mar 2021 08:44

steve248 wrote:
25 Mar 2021 17:05
The Uniformtraeger SS-Ustuf. Theodor Roth quoted above by Albert is probably the only Roth who could fit with the position.

But....KS (later KOS) Theodor Roth was about 60 years old in 1945 (making him born 1885 or so) and from the Kripo Monchen-Gladbach. I have him only at KdS St Quentin, but reported in France 1940-1944.

There seems to have been a lot of Sipo-SD officers at St Brieuc (see earlier posts). Are you sure Hartmann and Roth were officers?


i found the names of Roth and Hartmann in a list of members of Aussendienststelle Saint-Brieuc (Fenske , Hammer , Kiekhafer , etc...).
infortunately their first names are not available on this file.

Roth was listed with the french rank of Sous-Lieutenant (SS)
Hartmann was listed with the french rank of Capitaine (SS)

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Re: SIPO & SD in France?

Post by Georges JEROME » 27 Mar 2021 11:44

in the Wanted list dated june 1948 lone entry which fit is an Hauptmann Hartmann Sicherungs regiment 195 (area Saint Brieuc) 1944

My written sources (le Piège des Loup, Konventionneller Krieg oder NS Weltanschauungskrieg ?) mention
Ustuf Paul Fenske (then Quimper)
SS adjudant Ferdinand Fischer (then Rennes then Pontivy)
Rudolf Kiekhafer
Sturmscharführer Kuper on june 1944
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Re: SIPO & SD in France?

Post by Georg_S » 30 Apr 2021 10:56

One more who served in SD Frankreich

Karl Hartung SS-Ustuf
DoB: 23.6.1907 in Hagen
SS-Nr: 367192
NSDAP : 5460290

Served in SD Frankreich Kdo Brüssel from may 1944. All according to his SSO.

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Re: SIPO & SD in France?

Post by Georges JEROME » 30 Apr 2021 14:46

pb with date :

Until mai 1942 Beauftragter der CSSD In Frankreich und Belgien - Nord Frankreich has 2 Dienstellen : Dienststelle SIPO SD in Paris and Dienststelle SIPO SD in Brussels wih Kdo SD in Brussels
From mai 1942 with the appointment of a BdS Frankreich, the Dienststelle der SIPO SD Belgien und Nord Frankreich (2 french departements) was seperate from BdS Paris to become autonomous until appointment a BdS in Brussels on 1944.
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Re: SIPO & SD in France?

Post by Puck » 11 May 2021 19:14

steve248 wrote:
27 May 2018 13:27
SS-Ustuf. Greff with KdS Paris, Abt IV, 1941-1944; wanted by France for war crimes, reported in CROWCASS List No. 62, Sept. 1947;
“Inspector and Chauffeur” Greff with Gestapo Toulon, Sept. 1943-Aug. 1944; wanted by France for war crimes, reported in CROWCASS List No. 67, Feb. 1948.
this might be the anonymous Greff:
SS-UStuf Sepp Greff (*16.03.1904 Saarlautern, teacher)
01.02.1931 member NSDAP #412004
15.07.1938 member SS #307892
20.04.1938 SS-UStf as hauptamtl. Führer im SD
04.10.1940-09.10.1940 Wehrmacht
Greff, Sepp.jpg
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Re: SIPO & SD in France?

Post by danyb » 14 May 2021 11:50

danyb wrote:
19 Mar 2016 11:23
Hello !

Thank You Friends :wink:

what about these men:
all from SIPO-SD in Blois

Ludwig Bauer
Josef Plaickner
Max Raack
Heinrich Eppel
Helmut Calow

Thanks in Advance
danyb


others members of SIPO-SD Blois:

Fritz Retz
Karl Heintz-Heinson
Josef Widauer
Wilhelm Dornieden
Hans Kuhn
Karl Leupen
Wilhelm Scharmer

https://www.tharva.fr/1939-1945/mona-la-blonde

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Re: SIPO & SD in France?

Post by steve248 » 14 May 2021 17:58

Puck, I had seen the SSO for Sepp Greff sometime ago.
The details for the two men do not really mesh so I remain unconvinced.

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Re: SIPO & SD in France?

Post by ansata1976 » 14 May 2021 21:51

Trial 23.02.1955 in Lyon "Gestapo Dijon Trial"
SS-Obersturmführer Ludwig Heinrich Krämer (10.02.1891 in ?) sentenced to 20 years hard labour
SS-Untersturmführer Xaver Pfeiffer (02.12.1899 in ?) sentenced to 20 years hard labour
SS-Untersturmführer Wilhelm Friedrich Dorn (27.09.1898 in ?) sentenced to 20 years hard labour
SS-Untersturmführer Wolfgang Feller (13.09.1895 in Lauingen) sentenced to 5 years hard labour
SS-Scharführer Heinrich Morgenroth (23.03.1910 in ?) sentenced to 5 years hard labour
SS-Untersturmführer Johann Hintermayer (11.04.1897 in Dürrnhaar) sentenced to life hard labour (in absentia)

Were there any more defendants in this trial? What is the correct date and place of birth of Dorn, Morgenroth, Pfeiffer and Krämer?

Trial 19.11.1952 - 22.12.1952 in Paris (14 defendants) Gestapo Paris
SS-Hauptsturmführer Alfred Wenzel (12.05.1908 in Niedereinsiedel) sentenced to five years hard labour
SS-Unterscharführer Walter Kley (11.08.1910 in Schwäbisch-Gmünd) aquitted
SS-Unterscharführer Karl Kleindienst (24.09.1895 in Beilsten) sentenced to death (in absentia) died 30.10.1967 in Heilbronn
Friedrich Berger (20.03.1911 in Eupen) sentenced to death (in absentia) died 10.02.1960 in München

Who were the missing defendants and their sentences? What was the SS rank of Friedrich Berger?

Trial 09.12.1953 - 12.12.1953 in Lyon SIPO-SD Lons-le-Saunier
Hans Müller-Kuhlenkampff (?) sentence?
SS-Hauptscharführer Josef Löwke (?) sentence?
SS-Sturmscharführer Alfred Lütjens (07.06.1897 in Johannesburg) sentenced to 9 years hard labour (sentenced to 9 years hard labour 24.11.1954 in Lyon)
Were there any more defendants in this trial?

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Re: SIPO & SD in France?

Post by danyb » 26 May 2021 07:17

hello !

i have 2 Wilhelm Goke in my files:

a Wilhelm Goke within SIPO-SD Paris
and
a Wilhelm Goke within SIPO-SD Marseille

it is the same man or not ??

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Re: SIPO & SD in France?

Post by Puck » 28 May 2021 14:43

two more Müller from BdS Paris
KS/SS-Ustuf Karl Müller
KS/SS-Ustuf Kurt Müller
Müller, Karl (BdS Paris).jpg
Müller, Kurt (BdS Paris).jpg
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