Jochen Peiper picture from 1957

[TheGingerMan]

Peiper was sentenced to death for the malmedy massacer, but was set free after a couple of years in jail.
But as posted before, he was murdered by unkown men in 1976.

And about his corpse: Fire can make bodies melt togheter to small mummies, and thats probebly what we see in the picture posted.

I agree about the fire. But where's the head?

Ginger

[TheGingerMan]

Could somebody please explain the continued worshipping of Jochen Peiper?

Could your post explain a lack of non-labelling? Could someone say why he was murdered, as opoosed to many other SS Vets? At least we know he felt like he was being watched in the last few months of his life. And that he fought back! 8)


Ginger

[Harro]

Who said there's worshipping here? But one cannot deny the fact that this is the case in many other Peiper discussions, books and websites. Hence the question: why?

[Harro]

Why he was murdered? Probably because they tried to scare him away, tried to force him to leave France, but it got out of hand.

[Georges JEROME]

I already post upon the condition of his death (?) based on investigations.
Some doubts upon his real death in regard of some evidences found in his house and around : the possibility of a "screenplay" to disappear after an aggressive campaign conducted by communists of the area he lived can be ignored.

Georges.

[jv]

I have enlarged the image to show that it the remains of Joachim Peiper are photographed resting in a coffin. His country retreat Le Renfort was torched. The timing is of course significant: the celebrations of the Quatorze Juillet, the French national holiday, had just started with lots of fireworks (cover-up?). What is still a puzzling question (someone in the forum may have the anser to it) why would a high-profile SS-er retire to the very country where he would be so clearly disliked? Anyone? jv

[Rob - wssob2]

A quick google search on Jochen Peiper gave me sites (which I will not link to in defernce to forum rules) with quotes such as

Jochen Peiper: Hero of the Waffen-SS

Jochen Peiper, Rest in Peace. Thank you for everything.

Peiper was a likable, charming man with a charismatic personality. But this was not enough to sway the judges of the American military tribunal, who regarded all SS men as evil.

Erwin Ketelhut and the French having known and liked him shared the opinion that this knightly man, having defied so many dangers, should not have died this way.

Peiper was a special leader within the one of the most elite Waffen-SS divisions, the Leibstandarte-SS Adolf Hitler.

Peiper is often known as the "Last Gefallen" (Casualty).

There is an article about Peiper's death on neo-Nazi Gerhard Lauck's website (Lauck, the "Farm Belt Führer" runs the "Nazi-Party- Foreign Section" out of Nebraska.) sandwiched nicely between the anti-Semetic pamphlets and the rants about the subhuman victims of Hurrican Katrina.

W-SS hero worship and neo-Nazi venom seems to cooexist quite nicely.

[Jochen S.]

He liked France, but didn't particularly like the French!

Jochen S.

[Georges JEROME]

Peiper was always followed by his past of "war criminal" in spite :
- sentenced to death on 17 july 1946. He was not executed. a counter investigation say that he was far for the SS group who kill prisoneers of the 285 US bat. But in his capacity of C.O. he was responsible.
He was released end 1957.
From 1958 to 1961 he worked for Porsche in Stuttgart but forced to lease on request of Trade Unions.
From 1961 to 1969 he worked for Volkswagen at Reutlingen but forced to leave after prosecution for the action of LSSAH at Bove.
Realesed for no evidence.
He lived in Traves since 1967.
on 22 june 1976 when Communist Pary section of Haute Saone start a violent campaign againt the "war criminal" to obtain expulsion.
French authorities had no reason to expel him. Therefore in regard of the "public opinion" in this area, they decided no renew his permanent resident card given in 1972. He will have to leave France on february 1977. Mrs Peiper left Traves on july 13 1976 in the morning for germany.
In the night of 13 to 14 july 1976. The arson of his house.
pb of his death came from 2 facts :
- analysis of the body : no gold teeth found on the body, no more spinal column desease, his death sent from France to Germany for medical expert desappear !.
conclusion of the coroner is : nothing against identication of the body as Peiper but no real proof to said without doubt it's him.
- the fact his 2 dogs were found alongside a road and not near the place their master was dead.
- a police dog follow a pist up to a road... next to the house of his narrowest neighborough (a former waffen SS officer)

The fact he was declared death remain a "good" solution for everyone :
- he will be no more quite under his identity in regard of his notorious : could now live under false identity.
- his wife received a military pension and a life insurance
- french authorities were no more obliged to expel him without reason
- for neo nazis and veterans he became a martyr

but if the body is not Peiper who is it ?


what is the truth ?

JG

[Georges JEROME]

read "his head" sent to Germany.

[jv]

Peiper was always followed by his past of "war criminal" in spite :
- sentenced to death on 17 july 1946. He was not executed. a counter investigation say that he was far for the SS group who kill prisoneers of the 285 US bat. But in his capacity of C.O. he was responsible.
He was released end 1957.
From 1958 to 1961 he worked for Porsche in Stuttgart but forced to lease on request of Trade Unions.
From 1961 to 1969 he worked for Volkswagen at Reutlingen but forced to leave after prosecution for the action of LSSAH at Bove.
Realesed for no evidence.
He lived in Traves since 1967.
on 22 june 1976 when Communist Pary section of Haute Saone start a violent campaign againt the "war criminal" to obtain expulsion.
French authorities had no reason to expel him. Therefore in regard of the "public opinion" in this area, they decided no renew his permanent resident card given in 1972. He will have to leave France on february 1977. Mrs Peiper left Traves on july 13 1976 in the morning for germany.
In the night of 13 to 14 july 1976. The arson of his house.
pb of his death came from 2 facts :
- analysis of the body : no gold teeth found on the body, no more spinal column desease, his death sent from France to Germany for medical expert desappear !.
conclusion of the coroner is : nothing against identication of the body as Peiper but no real proof to said without doubt it's him.
- the fact his 2 dogs were found alongside a road and not near the place their master was dead.
- a police dog follow a pist up to a road... next to the house of his narrowest neighborough (a former waffen SS officer)

The fact he was declared death remain a "good" solution for everyone :
- he will be no more quite under his identity in regard of his notorious : could now live under false identity.
- his wife received a military pension and a life insurance
- french authorities were no more obliged to expel him without reason
- for neo nazis and veterans he became a martyr

but if the body is not Peiper who is it ?


what is the truth ?

JG

Peiper's son, Hinrich Peiper, confirmed the autopsy report of his father's murder. I believe there were no grounds to assume that there was a conspiracy. jv

[Daniel Laurent]

I do, however, have a problem with a website address that identifies him as "a maligned hero" so I will delete that.
~ Mike

Hi Mike,
I agree with your problem but you should not have quoted here this "problematic" sentence.
A little Google with it and I found this Neo-Nazi website easily
Regards
Daniel

[logibear64]

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National Archives picture.

[lavella]

Why he was murdered? Probably because they tried to scare him away, tried to force him to leave France, but it got out of hand.

Having saved his hide after his trial , Peiper found nothing better,some years after than to settle in France !!! but former french resistants near Traves had not a short memory.......avengers of Bove massacre victims,neither

Lavella

[Harro]

Lavella, no offense, but I don't understand what you mean.