SS-Standartenjunker Will Fey, RKT (?) - Questions
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SS-Standartenjunker Will Fey, RKT (?) - Questions
A lot of doubt has been cast on this soldier's wartime record, and I'd be interested to see the facts finally separated from the alleged rubbish. I do not have/cannot afford Veit Scherzer's new book on the Ritterkreuzträger, but would like to know his assessment of Fey's entitlement or lack thereof to wear the award.
With thanks in advance,
~ Mike
Will Fey
SS-Standartenjunker der Waffen-SS
* 25.09.1918 in Lollar / Kreis Giessen / Hessen.
+ 29.02.2002 in Freiburg.
NSDAP-Nr.: [Not a member]
SS-Nr.: Unknown (possibly no SS-Nr. assigned)
Promotions:
00.00.1942 Unteroffizier
00.00.194_ SS-Oberscharführer der Waffen-SS
29.04.1945 (?) SS-Standartenjunker der Waffen-SS
00.00.19__ Hauptmann (Bundeswehr)
Decorations & Awards:
29.04.1945 Ritterkreuz des Eisernen Kreuzes as SS-Oberscharführer and Panzer-Kommandant in schweren
SS-Panzer-Abteilung 102(502), Eastern Front (reportedly presented by SS-Brigadeführer und Generalmajor der Waffen-SS Wilhelm Mohnke)
00.00.194_ 1939 Eisernes Kreuz I. Klasse
15.06.1940 1939 Eisernes Kreuz II. Klasse
00.00.194_ Nahkampfspange
00.00.194_ Panzerkampfabzeichen in Silber
00.00.194_ Allgemeines-Sturmabzeichen
00.00.194_ Infanterie-Sturmabzeichen in Silber
00.00.1944 Verwundetenabzeichen, 1939 in Gold
ca. 1941 Verwundetenabzeichen, 1939 in Schwarz
00.00.1945 (12?) Sonderabzeichen für die Niederkämpfung von Panzerkampfwagen durch Einzelkämpfer
ca. 1942 Medaille “Winterschlacht im Osten 1941/42”
00.00.19__ Deutsches Reichssportabzeichen in Bronze
With thanks in advance,
~ Mike
Will Fey
SS-Standartenjunker der Waffen-SS
* 25.09.1918 in Lollar / Kreis Giessen / Hessen.
+ 29.02.2002 in Freiburg.
NSDAP-Nr.: [Not a member]
SS-Nr.: Unknown (possibly no SS-Nr. assigned)
Promotions:
00.00.1942 Unteroffizier
00.00.194_ SS-Oberscharführer der Waffen-SS
29.04.1945 (?) SS-Standartenjunker der Waffen-SS
00.00.19__ Hauptmann (Bundeswehr)
Decorations & Awards:
29.04.1945 Ritterkreuz des Eisernen Kreuzes as SS-Oberscharführer and Panzer-Kommandant in schweren
SS-Panzer-Abteilung 102(502), Eastern Front (reportedly presented by SS-Brigadeführer und Generalmajor der Waffen-SS Wilhelm Mohnke)
00.00.194_ 1939 Eisernes Kreuz I. Klasse
15.06.1940 1939 Eisernes Kreuz II. Klasse
00.00.194_ Nahkampfspange
00.00.194_ Panzerkampfabzeichen in Silber
00.00.194_ Allgemeines-Sturmabzeichen
00.00.194_ Infanterie-Sturmabzeichen in Silber
00.00.1944 Verwundetenabzeichen, 1939 in Gold
ca. 1941 Verwundetenabzeichen, 1939 in Schwarz
00.00.1945 (12?) Sonderabzeichen für die Niederkämpfung von Panzerkampfwagen durch Einzelkämpfer
ca. 1942 Medaille “Winterschlacht im Osten 1941/42”
00.00.19__ Deutsches Reichssportabzeichen in Bronze
- Dieter Zinke
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My belated gift for my comrade-in-arms Mike
FEY:
Without having any documentary evidence in the Bundesarchiv there is however the off chance of an official proposal to Burgdorf as well a bestowal directly by Hitler.
Acces to the records of the bestowing-commission of the OdR was unfortunately refused for Veit Scherzer by evidence to law of the Bundesarchiv.
Fellgiebel himself gave an account of the procedure in a letter from 1976:
Fey proposed for himself a court of honour shortly after he joined the Bundeswehr. Chairman was assumedly oakleaves-winner Werner Ebeling (at last Generalmajor/Bundeswehr).
This honorary council acknowledged the KC without the official verification.
The OdR accepted this decision "we don' t want to be wiser than the Bundeswehr".
Another filthy fiddling of the "honourable" companionship of the OdR.
Fey was a member and official of the OdR. He weard often and fain the neck order.
Dieter
FEY:
Without having any documentary evidence in the Bundesarchiv there is however the off chance of an official proposal to Burgdorf as well a bestowal directly by Hitler.
Acces to the records of the bestowing-commission of the OdR was unfortunately refused for Veit Scherzer by evidence to law of the Bundesarchiv.
Fellgiebel himself gave an account of the procedure in a letter from 1976:
Fey proposed for himself a court of honour shortly after he joined the Bundeswehr. Chairman was assumedly oakleaves-winner Werner Ebeling (at last Generalmajor/Bundeswehr).
This honorary council acknowledged the KC without the official verification.
The OdR accepted this decision "we don' t want to be wiser than the Bundeswehr".
Another filthy fiddling of the "honourable" companionship of the OdR.
Fey was a member and official of the OdR. He weard often and fain the neck order.
Dieter
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In "Panzerkamf im Bild" Fey claims that he was commander of a Panzerjagdkommando in Berlin at the end of the war. A quote from the book:
"Im Regierungsviertel sind es die Soldaten des Bataillons Fenet und des Panzerjagdkommandos der Nahkampfschule "Charlemagne" unter Obersturmführer Weber, die den Kern der Abwehr bilden und deren Hauptkampflinie sich immer mehr der Reichskanzlei nähert. Wilhelm Weber wird am 29. April nach Abschuss seines dreizehnten Sowjetpanzers an der Schulter schwer verwundet und in das Notlazarett in der Reichskanzlei eingeliefert. Standartenjunker Will Fey übernimmt seinen Platz und hält sein Jagdkommando zusammen bis zum bitteren Ende und Ausbruch."
However, I have nowhere else found any mentionings of Fey being in Berlin. Neither have I found no mentionings of Weber being wounded on that day. None of the surviving veterans of Weber's "Nahkampfschule" seem to recall Fey taking over Weber's place.
It is quite interesting to note that the day Fey claimed to receive the Knight's cross is the same day he releived Weber. Weber received the Knight's cross on that day.
Has Fey's transfer from s.Pz.Abt. 102 been confirmed? From what I've read he was transferred to a school in Königsbrück after the Normandy campaign, he was there to the end of january but then what?
Best regards/ Daniel
"Im Regierungsviertel sind es die Soldaten des Bataillons Fenet und des Panzerjagdkommandos der Nahkampfschule "Charlemagne" unter Obersturmführer Weber, die den Kern der Abwehr bilden und deren Hauptkampflinie sich immer mehr der Reichskanzlei nähert. Wilhelm Weber wird am 29. April nach Abschuss seines dreizehnten Sowjetpanzers an der Schulter schwer verwundet und in das Notlazarett in der Reichskanzlei eingeliefert. Standartenjunker Will Fey übernimmt seinen Platz und hält sein Jagdkommando zusammen bis zum bitteren Ende und Ausbruch."
However, I have nowhere else found any mentionings of Fey being in Berlin. Neither have I found no mentionings of Weber being wounded on that day. None of the surviving veterans of Weber's "Nahkampfschule" seem to recall Fey taking over Weber's place.
It is quite interesting to note that the day Fey claimed to receive the Knight's cross is the same day he releived Weber. Weber received the Knight's cross on that day.
Has Fey's transfer from s.Pz.Abt. 102 been confirmed? From what I've read he was transferred to a school in Königsbrück after the Normandy campaign, he was there to the end of january but then what?
Best regards/ Daniel
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Daniel,D. Löwenhamn wrote:Exactly my point, Dieter. Did Fey claim to have received the Knight's cross by Mohnke? Did Mohnke refute that after the war?
Best regards/ Daniel
Mohnke presented the KC on 29. April in the Bunker at the presence of General Hans Krebs to Wilhelm Weber, Friedrich Herzig, Karl Körner and Oskar Schäfer (according to Veit Scherzer). Possibly also to Apollot (Mohnke could'n t remember years after the war his name).
Nothing about Fey.
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Mohnke in a letter 1974:D. Löwenhamn wrote:Thanks, Dieter. That is what I suspected. Did Mohnke confirm that Fenet received the Knight's cross?
Best regards/ Daniel
He confirmed the bestowal with the KC to Wilhelm Weber, and - by request of Division "Charlemagne" also - to Vaulot, Fenet and possibly Apollot (the name escaped him).
Mohnke demanded officially the KCs for bestowing from General Burgdorf, and after receiving them there he himself handed over the awards in the bunker.
Mohnke in another letter from 1974:
Weber was the only KC-winner of the "Charlemagne"-Division who received his award by Mohnke.
Vaulot received his award (according to Krätschmer) from his Divisions-Kommandeur Dr. Krukenberg.
BTW: Paul Egger has absolutely nothing as proof for his KC in the german archives. He was cancelled by Veit Scherzer.
Dieter Z.
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Re: SS-Standartenjunker Willi Fey, RKT (?) - Questions
Here's a picture of Fey where he's wearing a side cap with silver cord , that's an indication that he was at least a Standartenoberjunker , only from this rank on you were allowed to wear the piping on your cap.
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Re: SS-Standartenjunker Will Fey, RKT (?) - Questions
Willi Fey (right) and Johannes Göhler at a post-war veteran meeting, 1997...
Source: http://www.wehrmacht-awards.com/forums/ ... nds&page=3
Source: http://www.wehrmacht-awards.com/forums/ ... nds&page=3
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