Let's Build the Romanian Third and Fourth Armies!!!

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Postby Yuri » 23 May 2007 20:58

Victor wrote:The independent battalions were sent to the front as following:
991st to the 5th Infantry Division on 1 September
992nd to the 7th Infantry Divison on 18 September
993rd to the 1st Armored Division on 31 October


Apparently, on October, 31 it is date of departure 993-rd penal battalion from Romania.
Anyway, at the front this battalion started to operate only in the middle of December.
His number at the moment of arrival on front – 870 person.

993-rd penal battalion really operated in structure 1MD on northern outskirts to Chernyshevskaja.

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Postby Victor » 24 May 2007 20:01

Yes, that is exactly what I meant. The dates are for the departures from Romania. The 993rd Independent Battalion arrived on 6 December 1942 in the Kamenesk railroad station, from where it was directed to front line held by the 1st Armored Division.

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Postby Yuri » 25 May 2007 19:24

Hi, Victor

I have found out in archive affair(folder / file) in which there are many documents containing the information received from captured Romanian soldiers and officers of 3. A. As I could understand, these Romanian soldiers and officers got in a captivity during the period from October till December, 1942.
Besides other, captured Romanian soldiers and officers named surnames of the commanders of platoons, a company, battalions and regiments.
Whether there is at you an interest to the information of such grade?

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Postby Yuri » 26 May 2007 17:15

Very curious data on 992-nd penal battalion were given by captured Romanian lieutenant Georgescu - chief of a warehouse in city SHACHTY.
Whether is true what 992-nd penal battalion has consisten of persons with higher education?

TSAMO RF
f. 331 op. 5041 d. 131 l. 87
Prospecting report No 56 army headquarters "Drill"
To 21.00 25/2/43
...
4. According to the neighbour on the right
Under indications POW of lieutenant GEORGESCU /chief of a warehouse in city SHACHTY/ is grasped 19/2 in region BOKOVO-ANTRAZIT: the Romanian 2 and 3 AK in structure of 14, 13, 5, 7, 8, 11, 18, 20 ID, 1 TD, 11 CDs after their rout on DON and ð. CHIR are merged together and through SHACHTY [SHAFTS] were removed on rearrangement. All these formations have had enormous losses in persons and an equipment. In city SHACHTY the army headquarters 29 AK was placed.
German troops, - on conversations of German officers, - depart through KRASNYJ LUCH [RED BEAM – Yuri] on DNEPRODPETROVSK on r. DNEPR to not appear in an encirclement in region DONBAS. On DNEPR will stop and will be consolidated.
The primary goal now - to stop the further promotion of Russian troops, and then to consolidate a boundary of defense. Germans are going in March - April from Germany to bring up to 30 fresh infantry divisions and new types of tanks, and then at the end of April and the beginning of May to proceed in approach and to defeat Russian troops.
The German army by the spring 1943 will receive new types of tanks which have on arms of 4 guns and 4 machine guns, the part of machine guns is coupled to guns.
In ROMANIA are created from persons with the higher education, adjusted against the existing order, 16 penal battalions, in particulars 992-nd penal battalion which in the structure completely had people with higher education.

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Postby Placid Lake » 08 Jul 2007 11:36

Romania was hardly a minor player in the AXIS. They were the fourth AXIS power.

PL

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Postby Bogdan M » 17 Oct 2007 00:26

I have some question for Dragos.If you can send me more information,if you have it about gen. Mazarini.
Thank you!

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Postby MorrisM » 31 Oct 2007 16:39

Salut tuturor,

Am gasit aici mentiuni despre batalia de la cotul Donului. Cum as putea sa aflu ce s-a intamplat cu bunicul meu, care a murit in acea perioada, in acea zona? Multumesc. Marius-Iasi

Hellor everybody,

I have found here mentions about the Don battle. How can I find what happend to my grandfather, who died in that period in that area? Thank you, Marius-Iasi, Romania.

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Postby Victor » 18 Nov 2007 09:27

The first step would be to identify which unit he was part of. If you have some clues we can give it a try. However, the surest thing will be to contact the Military Archives in Pitesti (Aleea Poarta Eroilor, no. 13 if memory serves me correctly) or go there in person to submit a request for information regarding your grandfather.

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Postby ocoleanui » 13 Oct 2016 15:09

Yuri wrote:Hi, Victor

I have found out in archive affair(folder / file) in which there are many documents containing the information received from captured Romanian soldiers and officers of 3. A. As I could understand, these Romanian soldiers and officers got in a captivity during the period from October till December, 1942.
Besides other, captured Romanian soldiers and officers named surnames of the commanders of platoons, a company, battalions and regiments.
Whether there is at you an interest to the information of such grade?


Hi Yuri ,

You have this files yet???

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Postby Yuri » 24 Dec 2016 23:43

ocoleanui wrote:Hi Yuri ,
You have this files yet???


Apologies for having missed your question. Yes, there is, but will need to try to find them!

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Re: Let's Build the Romanian Third and Fourth Armies!!!

Postby valentine III » 28 Mar 2017 11:58

Excuse me for revive this very interesting old thread.

What happened to the AA component of the Romanian armies and Air group: the 4th AA Brigade with their 4th and 5th regiments?
As far as I know each regiment had 3 battalions (groups) with 6 heavy batteries and between 6-8 light batteries, 2 HMG AA batteries and a Searchlight bat. I don't know if the numbers of batteries are for Battalion or Regiment, nor how mobile they were.
Is it known where were this battalions and batteries on the eve of the Uranus offensive and their movements.

Many thanks

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Re: Let's Build the Romanian Third and Fourth Armies!!!

Postby Legiune » 11 Oct 2017 07:37

Hi all,
I'm interested on another independent infantry battalion, the 750. I really don't know where it operated, I only know that it was assembled by the Recruitment Center of 18th Division/90 Regiment in Sibiu (Romania) and was sent to the front on June 8th 1942 from Sibiu. So, I guess it operated in structure of 18th Division but I don't have any proof of that. Do you know anything about this unit? My grandfather fought in this battalion from June 8th 1942 until March 22nd 1943. Thanks.


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