Croatian NDH Ustaška vojnica formations who was wearing fez?

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Croatian NDH Ustaška vojnica formations who was wearing fez?

Post by Schlange88 » 09 Jan 2020 09:22

Hi.

Is there any info about Croatian Ustaška Vojnica military formations who wearing fez with Ustaška Vojnica insignia?
Also, is it possible to find any INFO about Ustaška Vojnica member on these photo?

Thank all in advance

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Re: Croatian NDH Ustaška vojnica formations who was wearing fez?

Post by Schlange88 » 14 Jan 2020 08:29

Anyone?

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Re: Croatian NDH Ustaška vojnica formations who was wearing fez?

Post by Animal » 27 Jan 2020 05:11

That would've been Bosnian Muslims. The Bosnian units in the Austro-Hungarian Army also wore the fez.

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Re: Croatian NDH Ustaška vojnica formations who was wearing fez?

Post by Ivan Ž. » 27 Jan 2020 12:50

Yes, Croatian (Bosnian) Muslim units (of both the Croatian and German armed forces) wore fezzes.

And the above-pictured persons do have Muslim names: Salko (father) and Šemnun (son) Vidinlija. The photo caption reads: "Uspomena od Salka i njegovog sina Šemnuna. Rođen 3/9 1942 g., a slikan 3/12 1942. Šemnun Vidinlija, sin Vidinlije Salka." Translation: "A keepsake from Salko and his son Šemnun. Born 3 September 1942, photographed 3 December 1942. Šemnun Vidinlija, son of Salko Vidinlija." (Note: a "Vidinlija" is someone or something originating from Vidin, a town and region in present-day Bulgaria, which used to be occupied by the Ottomans for centuries.)

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Here's another photo of Ustashas with fezzes (on the left), in Bosanska Krajina, from Redžić's book "Muslimansko autonomaštvo i 13. SS divizija" (pictured on the right: Dr Džafer Kulenović, vice president of the NDH government).
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The Poglavnik himself wearing an Ustasha fez, honouring the Muslims (from Matković's book "Povijest Nezavisne Države Hrvatske", p. 134).
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Re: Croatian NDH Ustaška vojnica formations who was wearing fez?

Post by FlyingStukas » 31 Jan 2020 01:25

Let me also touch on the subject and add that the Fez was worn by virtually all ethnicities of the pre-war Bosnia and Herzegovina, best example being in the Bosnian Regiments of the Austro-Hungarian Army (the Regiments were composed of nearly 40% Orthodox and 23% Catholic men). Small variations in the civilian life were made with Bosnian Muslims (Bosniaks) opted for the red Fez, whereas the Bosnian Orthodox (Serbs) opted for a darker variant.

Once the NDH rule was established over Bosnia and Herzegovina, the Fez was specifically banned by law for Serbs and Jews. Hope this gave a small backstory to your question.

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Re: Croatian NDH Ustaška vojnica formations who was wearing fez?

Post by FlyingStukas » 01 Feb 2020 14:58

Here is what I was referring to, from a Sarajevo (NDH Controlled) newspaper.

"Jews and Serbs not allowed to fear Fezzes"
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Post by Ivan Ž. » 01 Feb 2020 15:34

Thanks for the scan, Filip. What is the newspaper title/date please? (Notice that they wrote "Jews" without a capital letter.)

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Post by FlyingStukas » 01 Feb 2020 21:00

Hello, Ivan

The newspapers are called "Novi List". I need to re-check the date, but the year is 1941.

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Re: Croatian NDH Ustaška vojnica formations who was wearing fez?

Post by Ivan Ž. » 01 Feb 2020 21:04

Yes, they started marking the Jewish population in May 1941, but what's the day the newspapers text was issued?

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Re: Croatian NDH Ustaška vojnica formations who was wearing fez?

Post by Schlange88 » 11 Feb 2020 08:48

I'm familiar with photo background text, but Im looking for any INFO about Ustaška Vojnica military formation who was wearing fez with U insignia.
IMO solider from photo has full collar tab insignia, so there is possibility he serve on military formations located near larger garrisons. (A lot of Ustaška Vojnica soliders who served smaller and distant military units has only a U insignia, without background.)
I found some information that Dr. Džafer Kulenović has some type of honor guard compoused from members who was wearing fez with U insignia.
Does anyone something more?

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Post by Ivan Ž. » 11 Feb 2020 11:05

Hello, Schlange

In future, when fellow members spend their valuable time to respond to your post in a friendly manner, it's polite to reply at least with a thanks. Second, the text was transcribed and translated to you entirely since you were looking for info on the pictured person but didn't read his surname properly, as you wrote on three other internet forums: it's not "Salko Vidinlije", it's Vidinlija, which means originating from Vidin. Now you can at least search for a correct name.

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Re: Croatian NDH Ustaška vojnica formations who was wearing fez?

Post by Schlange88 » 11 Feb 2020 11:49

@Ivan Im looking for his Ustaška Vojnica unit, not his family origin - please read my posts.

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Re: Croatian NDH Ustaška vojnica formations who was wearing fez?

Post by Ivan Ž. » 11 Feb 2020 11:51

Perhaps you should read them too.
Schlange88 wrote:
09 Jan 2020 09:22
Is there any info about Croatian Ustaška Vojnica military formations who wearing fez with Ustaška Vojnica insignia?
Also, is it possible to find any INFO about Ustaška Vojnica member on these photo?
To find info on him, you need his name. Now you got the correct name, plus its origin. So you're welcome, and good luck in your search.

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Re: Croatian NDH Ustaška vojnica formations who was wearing fez?

Post by Schlange88 » 18 May 2020 21:52

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