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Romania Artillery

Postby YAN » 06 Mar 2007 17:02

Hi, can anyone give me a list of the Artillery used by the Romania army from 1920 to 1944 please, I have checked on the Romania in ww2 webb site only to find a lot of the data missing, Thanks Yan.

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Postby YAN » 13 Mar 2007 15:40

Thanks For the reply Fabi, I am sorry that was the site I ment about lots of data missing, but its my fault for not making it clear. Thank again Yan.

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Postby Victor » 13 Mar 2007 20:17

YAN wrote:Thanks For the reply Fabi, I am sorry that was the site I ment about lots of data missing, but its my fault for not making it clear. Thank again Yan.


Could you be more specific about the missing data?

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Postby YAN » 14 Mar 2007 11:10

Hi Victor, it is a lot of weapons, so here we go,

8cm Kanon vz 17 (Austro-Hungary 1917) Field Gun
Skoda 105mm M1915 (Austro-Hungary 1915) Field Gun
Canon de 152mm mle (French 1910) Field Gun
Krupp M1898/09 (German 1898/09) Field Howitzer
Krupp M1912 (German 1912) Field Howitzer
Skoda 10.5cm 40/43 (Czechoslovakia 1940/43) Field Howitzer
Skoda 149mm M33 (Czechoslovakia 1933) Field Gun
Krupp M1891/16 (German 1891/16) Field Howitzer
Skoda 100mm M1914 (Austro-Hungary 1914) Mountain Gun
Skoda 100mm M1916 (Austro-Hungary 1916) Mountain Gun
Skoda 76.5mm (Czechoslovakia 1928) Anti-Aircraft Gun
9cm Kanon Pz wz 12/30 (Czechoslovakia 1912/30) Anti-Aircraft Gun

Thats the lot Victor, Thanks Yan.

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Postby YAN » 20 Mar 2007 15:15

Victor, I have been made aware of a site concerning Bulgarian WW1 artillery, the site was made known to me by Adolpheit, it has a great range of guns and howitzers used in the Great War, I noticed that the Bulgarians used the following,

105mm L/16 Krupp M.1898 Howitzer
105mm L/16 Krupp M.1909 Howitzer
120mm L/11 Krupp m.1891 Howitzer

Are these the same weapons used by the Romanians ?.

Krupp M1898/09 (German 1898/09) Field Howitzer
Krupp M1891/16 (German 1891/16) Field Howitzer

Thanks Yan.

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Postby adolpheit » 21 Mar 2007 08:44

YAN wrote:Victor, I have been made aware of a site concerning Bulgarian WW1 artillery, the site was made known to me by Adolpheit, it has a great range of guns and howitzers used in the Great War, I noticed that the Bulgarians used the following,

105mm L/16 Krupp M.1898 Howitzer
105mm L/16 Krupp M.1909 Howitzer
120mm L/11 Krupp m.1891 Howitzer

Are these the same weapons used by the Romanians ?.

Krupp M1898/09 (German 1898/09) Field Howitzer
Krupp M1891/16 (German 1891/16) Field Howitzer

Thanks Yan.


AFIK Krupp M1898/09 (German 1898/09) Field Howitzer was 105mm L/16 Krupp M. 1909, that was the M.1898 model updated in 1909. Krupp M1891/16 sound strange. Rumenia bought some 120mm howitzers at the end of the 19th century, but I don't remember wether Krupp or Schneider. At home I have the data of this howitzer. This evening you will have the answer.

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Postby adolpheit » 21 Mar 2007 08:46

YAN wrote:Hi Victor, it is a lot of weapons, so here we go,

8cm Kanon vz 17 (Austro-Hungary 1917) Field Gun
Skoda 105mm M1915 (Austro-Hungary 1915) Field Gun
Canon de 152mm mle (French 1910) Field Gun
Krupp M1898/09 (German 1898/09) Field Howitzer
Krupp M1912 (German 1912) Field Howitzer
Skoda 10.5cm 40/43 (Czechoslovakia 1940/43) Field Howitzer
Skoda 149mm M33 (Czechoslovakia 1933) Field Gun
Krupp M1891/16 (German 1891/16) Field Howitzer
Skoda 100mm M1914 (Austro-Hungary 1914) Mountain Gun
Skoda 100mm M1916 (Austro-Hungary 1916) Mountain Gun
Skoda 76.5mm (Czechoslovakia 1928) Anti-Aircraft Gun
9cm Kanon Pz wz 12/30 (Czechoslovakia 1912/30) Anti-Aircraft Gun

Thats the lot Victor, Thanks Yan.


At home I have the data of many of these guns. I can post them here or if you send me a mail, I can answer privately. How you prefer.

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Postby YAN » 21 Mar 2007 13:36

Hi Adopheit, your help is much appreciated, send them to the Forum please, Thanks Yan.

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Postby adolpheit » 21 Mar 2007 17:33

AFIK Krupp M1898/09 (German 1898/09) Field Howitzer was 105mm L/16 Krupp M. 1909, that was the M.1898 model updated in 1909. Krupp M1891/16 sound strange. Rumenia bought some 120mm howitzers at the end of the 19th century, but I don't remember wether Krupp or Schneider. At home I have the data of this howitzer. This evening you will have the answer.[/quote]

At the end of 19th century Rumenia bought 32 Krupp not QF howitzer, an improved model of the howitzer bought by Turkey and Bulgaria. It was designed M. 1901 by some sources, but you may find also different desiognations. I don't know wether it was modified in 1916, my data came from a book published in 1913.
I think this is the howitzer of your post, but I'm not sure.

Calibre : 120mm L/11.6
Weight in action : 1065 kg
Weight in marching order : 1835 kg
Weight of the ammo wagon : 1910 kg
Barrel lenght : 1392 m
Shrapnel weight : 21 kg
Shrapnel max. range : 6500 m
Muzzle velocity : 300 m/s
Transport : drawn by six horses
Slow firing howitzer without shield.

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Postby adolpheit » 21 Mar 2007 18:08

These are the data I have for :

8cm Kanon vz 17 (Austro-Hungary 1917) Field Gun
Krupp M1912 (German 1912) Field Howitzer
Skoda 100mm M1916 (Austro-Hungary 1916) Mountain Gun
Remarks : A-H guns data are related with A-H. ammo.

Gun model : Škoda 76.5mm M. 1917
Austrian designation : 8cm Feldkanone M. 17
Calibre : 76.5mm L/30
Weight : 348 kg
Weight in action : 1440 kg
Weight in marching order : 2327 kg
Barrel lenght : 2.297 m
Number of barrel grooves : 30
Height of line of fire : 905 mm
Shield thickness : 4.2 mm
Shell weight : 6.64 kg (bursting charge : 120 g Ammonal)
Mine shell weight : 8 kg (bursting charge : 770 g)
Shrapnel weight : 6.64 kg - 316 bullets x 9 g and 16 balls x 13 gr
H.E. Shrapnel eight : 8 kg - 249 balls x 12 g (bursting charge : 345 g)
Muzzle velocity : 520 m/s
Max. range : 10500 m / 8700 m
Elevation : + 45° / - 8°
Traversing angle : 8°
Track : 1.53 m
Diameter of wheels : 1.30 m
Remarks : Quick firing field gun. During the WW1 462 guns were built in A-H.


Rumenian designation : Obuzierul Krupp, cal. 105 mm, md. 1912
German designation : 10.5cm Haubitze M. 12
Calibre : 105mm L/14
Weight in action : 1155 kg
Weight in marching order : 1900 kg
Barrel lenght : 1.470 m
Number of barrel grooves : 32
Shield height: 1.77 m
Shell weight : 15.7 kg
max. range : 6500 m
Shrapnel weight : 15.7 kg
max. range : 6000 m
H.E. Shrapnel weight : 14 kg
Muzzle velocity : 300 m/s
Elevation : + 43° / - 5°
Traversing angle : 6°
Remarks : Quick firing light field howitzer.


Gun model : Škoda 100mm M. 1916
Calibre : 100mm L/19.3
Weight in action : 1235 kg
Weight in marching order :
Shell weight : 16 kg - charge : 1.55 kg (Granate M.14/9)
max. range : 7750 m
Muzzle velocity : 397 m/s
Shell weight : 13.6 kg - charge : 1.45 kg (Granate M. 15)
max. range : 8200 m
Muzzle velocity : 341 m/s
Shrapnell weight : 13.5 kg - 430 bullets (Schrapnell M.14/12f mit Bleikugeln)
Shrapnell weight : 11.975 kg - 280 bullets (Schrapnell M.14/12f mit Eisenkugeln)
Shrapnell weight : 13.5 kg - 556 bullets (Schrapnell M.14 mit Bleikugeln)
Shrapnell weight : 11.25 kg - 306 bullets (Schrapnell M.14 mit Eisenkugeln)
Elevation : + 70° / - 8°
Traversing angle : 5° 30'
Transport : 3 two-horsed loads (670-750 kg)
Remarks : Quick firing mountain howitzer.

Gun model : Škoda 100mm M. 1914
Calibre : 100mm L/19.3
Weight in action : 1235 kg
Weight in marching order :
Shell weight : 16 kg - charge : 1.55 kg (Granate M.14/9)
max. range : 7750 m
Muzzle velocity : 397 m/s
Shell weight : 13.6 kg - charge : 1.45 kg (Granate M. 15)
max. range : 8200 m
Muzzle velocity : 341 m/s
Shrapnell weight : 13.5 kg - 430 bullets (Schrapnell M.14/12f mit Bleikugeln)
Shrapnell weight : 11.975 kg - 280 bullets (Schrapnell M.14/12f mit Eisenkugeln)
Shrapnell weight : 13.5 kg - 556 bullets (Schrapnell M.14 mit Bleikugeln)
Shrapnell weight : 11.25 kg - 306 bullets (Schrapnell M.14 mit Eisenkugeln)
Elevation : + 70° / - 8°
Traversing angle : 5° 30'
Transport : 3 two-horsed loads (670-750 kg)
Remarks : Quick firing mountain howitzer.

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Postby YAN » 22 Mar 2007 15:29

Thank you very much Adolpheit for your time and effort, Yan.

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Postby Victor » 24 Mar 2007 18:52

YAN wrote:Hi Victor, it is a lot of weapons, so here we go,

8cm Kanon vz 17 (Austro-Hungary 1917) Field Gun


Barrel grooves: 30
Barrel length: 2.295 m
Weight: 1319 kg
Shell weight: 8 kg
Muzzle speed: 554 m/s
Range: 11.4 km

YAN wrote:Skoda 105mm M1915 (Austro-Hungary 1915) Field Gun


Barrel grooves: 35
Barrel length: 3.675 m
Weight: 3030 kg
Shell weight: 16.1 kg
Muzzle speed: 668 m/s
Range: 12.2 km

YAN wrote:Canon de 152mm mle (French 1910) Field Gun


Barrel grooves: 28
Barrel length: 4.267 m
Weight: 4000 kg
Shell weight: 40.9 kg
Muzzle speed: 640 m/s
Range: 12.4 km

YAN wrote:Krupp M1898/09 (German 1898/09) Field Howitzer


Caliber: 105 mm
Barrel grooves: 16
Barrel length: 1.68 m
Weight: 1225 kg
Shell weight: 15.8 kg
Muzzle speed: 302 m/s
Range: 6.3 km

YAN wrote:Krupp M1912 (German 1912) Field Howitzer


Caliber: 105 mm
Barrel length: 1.18 m
Range: 6 km

YAN wrote:Skoda 10.5cm 40/43 (Czechoslovakia 1940/43) Field Howitzer


Barrel grooves: 23.9
Barrel length: 2.51 m
Weight: 1400 kg
Shell weight: 15 kg
Muzzle speed: 450 m/s
Range: 11 km

YAN wrote:Skoda 149mm M33 (Czechoslovakia 1933) Field Gun


Barrel grooves: 27
Barrel length: 4.026 m
Weight: 5020 kg
Shell weight: 42 kg
Muzzle speed: 570 m/s
Range: 15 km

YAN wrote:Krupp M1891/16 (German 1891/16) Field Howitzer

Caliber: 210 mm
Range: 6.9 km

YAN wrote:Skoda 100mm M1914 (Austro-Hungary 1914) Mountain Gun

Barrel grooves: 19
Barrel length: 1.9 m
Weight: 1417 kg
Shell weight: 13.65 kg
Muzzle speed: 407 m/s
Range: 9.28 km

YAN wrote:Skoda 100mm M1916 (Austro-Hungary 1916) Mountain Gun


It is mentioned on the website.

YAN wrote:Skoda 76.5mm (Czechoslovakia 1928) Anti-Aircraft Gun


Barrel grooves: 40
Barrel length: 3.06 m
Weight: 1816 kg
Shell weight: 8 kg
Muzzle speed: 600 m/s
Range: 13.1 km

YAN wrote:9cm Kanon Pz wz 12/30 (Czechoslovakia 1912/30) Anti-Aircraft Gun


Barrel grooves: 45
Barrel length: 4.05 m
Weight: 6500 kg
Shell weight: 10.2 kg
Muzzle speed: 775 m/s
Range: 6 km

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Postby YAN » 26 Mar 2007 09:48

Thanks Victor that info is really useful, Yan.

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Postby YAN » 26 Mar 2007 15:00

Victor, have you any data on the Krupp 105mm model 1916 please, especially the L/ & traverse,
One more thing Victor the Romanian field artillery, AT Guns & AA Guns were they all Horse drawn or were they motorized. Thanks Yan.


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