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it's a 105mm Putilov Schneider licensed production to Russia then bought some. http://www.landships.freeservers.com/10 ... around.htm
Only variation is the muzzle brake. Those were installed to reduce recoil by creating backpressure on the barrel.
http://perso.orange.fr/batteries.du.cot ... ze%207.jpg
23. Canon de 105 L mile 13 S: This gun was utilized by both sides in Spain. The Nationalists used it in the battles for the Guadarrama Mountains. See also French Ordnance Note 14.
apparently the first russian tanks were armed with tis gun =)
according to this article the muzzle brake was added to the 1930 modification - 107mm m.1910/30 so you're probably looking at a captured gun.
"107mm m.1910 107mm Gun
This gun was developed (and initially produced) for the Russian Army at teh French "Schneider" plants. It proved to be quite effective and was extensively used during World War One and the Civil War. It was able to throw a 17,2kg shell out to 12,500m and was very good for long range attacks against enemy columns and assembly areas. It's relatively light weight also allowed it to be easily transported by six horses. Among the other good designs of Russian Army it was kept at service in RKKA after the Civil War.
107mm m.1910/30 107mm ER Gun
By 1930 it became clear that the old guns should be modernized. The project for improving 107mm gun was done by constructorial bureau of Artillery committee of Main Artillery Department. The following changes were provided: barrel length increased by 10 calibers, muzzle break installed, shell chamber increased, long-range shell run into production and elevation mechanism changed.
As a result, firing range was increased to 16,350m, but its main drawbacks (due the old-style carriage) remained: just 6 degrees of horizontal aiming angle and just 6kph towing speed.
This gun was used all throughout the war and wqas replaced with the BS-3 only in 1944.
107mm m.1940(M-60) 107mm ER Gun or 100mm AT Gun* * - at prewar antitank brigades
This gun was designed in 1938 in constructorial bureau of F.F.Petrov as a replacement for 107mm m.1910/30. Its firing range was increase to 18,130m, horizontal aiming angle to 60 degrees and towing spped up to 35kph. Numerous defects and faults delayed approving it to military service until 1940. As a result, only small quantity was produced by 1941.
Due the mistakenly overestimated quality and thickness of armor of the new german tanks, the head of Main Artillery Department G.I.Kulik demanded a cease to all production of "now ineffective" 45mm and 76mm guns and the dismantling of all equipment that couldn't be used to produce this new 107mm gun (its AP shell was able to penetrate 130mm from 500m). These heavy guns were planned to be used in antitank brigades as well as in divisional artillery regiments. But when the war began, it was soon discovered that M-60 is too heavy and had too slow a rate of fire (5-6spm) for divisional and AT roles, as well the newest german tanks had armor that could be easily penetrated by 76mm guns from all distances, while lighter tanks where vulnerable to 45mm AT guns or AT rifles. But the production of these 76mm and 45mm already was ceased and equipmment dismantled. Therefore, during the first hard months of war, the consequences of this error were fixed, 45mm and 76mm gun production renewed, but due to shortages of materials and equipment production of (in other conditions very good) the 107mm M-60 guns was cancelled."
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Actually it is Skoda artillery piece, either a 100-mm howitzer M1930 or some sort of 75-mm gun M1928 (see http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?t=180510).Franzl Rider wrote:Interesting data. Here are two pictures of the same Rumanian horse drawn artillery unit in Southern Russia 1942. The piece is (I think) a French 155mm Schneider. From ebay.
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This one is 75-mm Putilov-Schneider M1902/36 that were made from M1902 guns in Romania (note the form of the barrel).Sturm78 wrote:Hi all,
76.2mm M1902/30 Soviet gun captured by Romanian tropos:
Image from historicalmedia website
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Thank you very much, Ilya.Ilya wrote
This one is 75-mm Putilov-Schneider M1902/36 that were made from M1902 guns in Romania (note the form of the barrel).
Here, an image from EBay: 2cm Flak 30
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