Hungarian Army in invasion of Yugoslavia?

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Hungarian Army in invasion of Yugoslavia?

Post by Dili » 28 Feb 2017 07:45

I am looking for disposition of III Hungarian Army troops in field at time of German invasion and Hungarian invasion.

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Re: Hungarian Army in invasion of Yugoslavia?

Post by GregSingh » 02 Mar 2017 01:41

To start with - just a basic map showing advance of Hungarian units.
Délvidék 1941.jpg
Source: SIPOS PÉTER - Jugoszlávia felosztása 1941-ben

And 3rd Army OOB - http://www.niehorster.org/015_hungary/4 ... rmy_03.htm
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Re: Hungarian Army in invasion of Yugoslavia?

Post by Leo Niehorster » 02 Mar 2017 09:37

Here is a map from my book with the dispositions of the Hungarian units just before the invasion:
(Sorry about the size)

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Re: Hungarian Army in invasion of Yugoslavia?

Post by GregSingh » 02 Mar 2017 09:53

Leo, are you sure it's 2nd, not the 1st Cav. Brigade on your map?
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Re: Hungarian Army in invasion of Yugoslavia?

Post by Leo Niehorster » 02 Mar 2017 10:03

The original map shows 1.Gk.dd., 2.Gk.dd., and 2.Lov.dd.
(Sorry, I don't have a scanner yet.)

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Re: Hungarian Army in invasion of Yugoslavia?

Post by GregSingh » 02 Mar 2017 11:12

I see.
I was sure 1st Cav. was part of Mobile Corps and 2nd Cav. was part of V Corps.
So either there is an error somewhere or they switched Cav. brigades around for some reason.

OOB on your web page shows 1st Cav. as part of Mobile Corps as well...
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Re: Hungarian Army in invasion of Yugoslavia?

Post by Dili » 03 Mar 2017 17:02

Excellent. Thanks Greg and Leo.

From my earlier search i also have the 2nd Cav advancing as unit of V Corps which makes me wonder looking at map - size is good Leo - if it's attached formation wasn't changed. I haven't found any information on advancement of 1st Cav, it seems to have stayed in reserve.

Greg in your map it shows that I Corps also advanced but i don't have in my earlier data/research any unit from I Corp moving in.

- have had the 2 mobile brigades going Vukovar, Valijevo 19 April (some info i found said they went Novi Sad in 13 April but i found that strange)
- parachute drops of 1st airborne battalion on Vrba 12 April and Srboban after.

Other committed units:
V Corps
14 Inf.Brigade
2 Cav.Brigade

IV Corps
12 Inf.Brigade
11 Inf.Brigade - attacked Baranya - in map is separated from IV Corps, was it independent?
10 Inf.Brigade

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Re: Hungarian Army in invasion of Yugoslavia?

Post by GregSingh » 04 Mar 2017 06:00

Unfortunately I don't have access to any primary source documents, it's all secondary sources. So there might be some errors/differences difficult to resolve.

Kiss Gabor Ferenc in his book "Operations of Mobile Forces of The Royal Hungarian Army 1938-1941" also puts 2nd Cavalry brigade as part of Mobile Corps (as on Leo's map).
But he cited a primary document that 2nd Cavalry brigade was located in the area of Csikéria, Kelebia, Tompa; which is not in the area Leo's map shows, but directly next to it, further to the North-East.
Later he writes that 1st Cavalry brigade was late to arrive and did not participate in initial advance.
Perhaps that's why 2nd Cavalry brigade was moved from V Corps to Mobile Corps (only my guess).

11 Inf.Brigade was directly under 3rd Army command.
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Re: Hungarian Army in invasion of Yugoslavia?

Post by Dili » 04 Mar 2017 18:35

Maybe an difference on reference dates explain map changes ? I got the 11 Bde wrong now it is fine.

Do you know anything about forces that remained in occupation?

I have 15 Inf Bde unknown when it entered former Yugoslav territory, it was there in 1942 at least, also I Hussar Regiment that stayed there up to end of 1941 or thereabouts.

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Re: Hungarian Army in invasion of Yugoslavia?

Post by Dr Eisvogel » 05 Mar 2017 16:07

Leo Niehorster wrote:Here is a map from my book with the dispositions of the Hungarian units just before the invasion:
(Sorry about the size)

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Dear Dr. Niehorster,

I think the Yugoslav division in Baranya Triangle facing Hungarian 11th Infantry Brigade is not Daljska Division, because division under such a name did not exist.

I believe it was Osijek (or Osiječka) Division.

Please check the page 53
http://www.dtic.mil/cgi-bin/GetTRDoc?AD=ADA274019

Also, it's not Vrbska, but Vrbaska Division, named after river Vrbas in Bosnia.

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