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Netherlands NSB 1936 Item

Postby JLEES » 23 Nov 2017 13:15

I have a postcard issued by the Dutch Nazi Party in 1936. The rear side simply states: "Aandenken le Lustrum 14 December 1936". Does anyone know what this means?
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Re: Netherlands NSB 1936 Item

Postby Waleed Y. Majeed » 23 Nov 2017 14:52

Could it be the first N.S.B. meeting in Amsterdam?
http://nha.courant.nu/issue/HD/1936-12- ... n/0/page/5

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Re: Netherlands NSB 1936 Item

Postby JLEES » 23 Nov 2017 15:14

Yes, actually, after posting the above image, I had a chance to play with the verbiage on the postcard in a Google search and it appears to have been issued to commemorate the NSB Party Congress in Amsterdam on December 12 and their party's 5th anniversary two days later. There was some information about 11,000 NSB members meeting in Amsterdam for their party congress. Don't understand the handwritten message on the back though. many thanks for you fast reply.

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Re: Netherlands NSB 1936 Item

Postby Bokkop » 23 Nov 2017 17:25

Perhaps one of the Dutch members could comment on the following: it looks like a quote from the Wilhelmus. Is there is any special significance in the use of the archaic original spelling ("vaderlant" etc)?

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Re: Netherlands NSB 1936 Item

Postby Waleed Y. Majeed » 23 Nov 2017 17:55

With my limited knowledge of
dutch I would say:
I greet all colleagues.
+ (maybe location and name last).

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Re: Netherlands NSB 1936 Item

Postby JLEES » 23 Nov 2017 19:17

Many kind thanks. It looks like it would say something simple like that. Have a great evening!!!!!!!!!

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Re: Netherlands NSB 1936 Item

Postby Waleed Y. Majeed » 23 Nov 2017 20:15

Hi again and thanks, will enjoy
my evening, even more now I know
I helped a fellow poster here :thumbsup:

Just some final bits of info.
See latin meaning of lustrum and 5 years.
Party was formed on december 14, 1931.
So 5th. anniversary sounds right.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lustrum

Still not sure of the name but think the
Hou Zee is either a place or greeting...
https://nl.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Houzee

And finally, the writer might be dyslexic
or it is written in "old dutch" or..?
Everywhere I have looked it is spelled
Grote with one E. Hou Zee, not with an S.

For more help you'll need someone Dutch
as my limitations are reached.

cheers and good evening to you too!

w

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Re: Netherlands NSB 1936 Item

Postby PatrickBateman » 23 Nov 2017 20:52

Waleed Y. Majeed had it right.
"I greet all my colleagues's. Hou Zee! (NSB salute), and on the other side: "Faithful in the fatherland till the end/death". You can't really translate it 100% from Dutch to English, otherwise it will be "Fatherland faithful the till death".

Interesting to see someone from the USA with an postcard from the Netherlands.

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Re: Netherlands NSB 1936 Item

Postby JLEES » 23 Nov 2017 22:12

Wow! Many thanks to both of you. Great information!!!!!! It looks like the card was also mailed from Amsterdam on the December 14 anniversary to someone in Frankfurt, Germany. I must assume he was there for the NSB meeting two days earlier on December 12, 1936. I found something on the internet indicating roughly 11,000 NSB members attended the party congress. The card popped up in a postcard Auction last month as a Dutch Fascist item. There was enough of the image showing the flag that allowed me to figure it out to be a NSB item and fortunately there wasn't too much bidding competition getting it. I had no idea it was tied in with the NSB Congress and the organization's fifth anniversary. I must assume in 1945 much of this was destroyed and not too many of these things are around now. In the US American Nazi postcards issued in the 1930s are hard to find. Not too many around now. Again, many, many thanks!!!!!!!!!

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Re: Netherlands NSB 1936 Item

Postby Wim » 24 Nov 2017 19:03

The text on the bottem of the card is according to me a sentance from the 1e vers of the Dutch Anthem.

Wilhelmus van Nassouwe
ben ik, van Duitsen bloed,
den vaderland getrouwe
blijf ik tot in den dood.

Een Prinse van Oranje
ben ik, vrij, onverveerd,
den Koning van Hispanje
heb ik altijd geëerd.

Here is the text a litle bit modern than on the postcard.

The Houzee (Hoezee) greeting was also used by de Flemisch VNV.
One version is that it means Hou Zee (a maritime greeting) Keep the right course.
The other meaning is that it is a joyfull greeting.

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Any information about Flemisch in German service (Waffen SS, OT, NSKK, Kriegsmarine, DRK, ...) during WWII is welcome.

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Re: Netherlands NSB 1936 Item

Postby JLEES » 24 Nov 2017 19:21

Wim, many thanks! I'm sure the NSB and VNV members used the Houzee (Hoezee) as a more joyfull greeting. It wouldn't make too much sense the other way. Would you say that is correct?

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Re: Netherlands NSB 1936 Item

Postby Wim » 24 Nov 2017 20:43

Well i see that both options are valid. It is a greeting of people who think in the same manner. Our believes are going in the right way, it also could mean "be save" because if you take the wrong course it doesn't end well so you have according to me a number of options. It is also a form of respect, i respect you and you me.

Of course the deeper meaning of the greeting is mostly forgotten than just the greeting itself.

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Re: Netherlands NSB 1936 Item

Postby JLEES » 24 Nov 2017 23:34

Interesting! Many thanks for sharing the great information.
James

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Re: Netherlands NSB 1936 Item

Postby Waleed Y. Majeed » 25 Nov 2017 02:34

Well James, guess all you need now is
the name, who he was, where he lived
and what he had for breakfast on
december 14th. 1936. :P

I've enjoyed this and learned something too.
Thanks for sharing James, and thanks to
the rest for filling in what I didn't know!

A joyfull houzee from Denmark!

waleed

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Re: Netherlands NSB 1936 Item

Postby JLEES » 29 Nov 2017 01:16

Yes, thanks for the excellent assistance. You gave me some great insight into the card's interesting history. Again, Thanks!!!!!!
James


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