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#16

Post by luno » 05 Nov 2003, 00:31

Hello Orok

you are thinking off the Bofors 80mm modell 29 AA gun, it is nott that gun on the picture the modell 29 look like the german 88mm Flak without the armored shild
its an weary strange picture :)
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Post by Orok » 05 Nov 2003, 18:53

Hi Olof,

I was indeed thinking of the Bofors 80mm M29 AA guns, and the gun shown in the photo obviously was not one of them. Any body knows what gun it is?

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Post by bmk1st » 05 Nov 2003, 19:41

Perhaps post a question in Equipment forum about this gun would get more responsives?

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Post by Orok » 05 Nov 2003, 19:51

Just did what you suggested. Thanks pal!

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Post by Orok » 06 Nov 2003, 02:48

Now lets get back to the topic of this thread, here's an interesting picture of a pair of Hungarian Gendamries.

The soldier on the left is the patrol leader who has the leader's badge on his left breast just above his pocket. His unique headgear features cockerel feather plume. His collar tab base is red on dark green, the branch color of Hungarian Royal Gendarmeries. The rank insignia shows he is a Sergent (örmester). The lanyards and pompoms wore by both are actually marksman's badges, the color of which should be dark green, and the brass whistles slung from the lanyards are both decorative and functional. The other soldier is a senior coporal.
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#21

Post by Napoli » 06 Nov 2003, 11:39

Some great photo's in there Orok, I came across one about 8 months ago of some Hungarian soldiers lying on a tarp or something on top of a train heading towards the Russian front, have you seen it by chance?

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Post by luno » 06 Nov 2003, 11:51

Orok wrote:Sorry Olof,

I don't have any information on Hungarian 75mm Bofors guns. I only have the following information on Hungarian 40mm Bofors AA guns, Hungarian designation 40mm 36M.
In Hungary, the 40-mm gun was produced by MAVAG (Hungarian State Railways). The Hungarian armed forces deployed at least 767 guns; of these, 135 were mounted on 40M Nimrod self-propelled (SP) mountings, and a very few were mounted in Messerschmitt Me 210Ca-1 twin-engined aircraft. Hungary also exported guns to Finland, Great Britain, Norway, China, and Latvia. During World War II, the Hungarians provided at least 262 guns and 735 spare barrels to the German armed forces. The Hungarians added some technical developments to their Bofors, and were the first to use them in combat in conjunction with radar fire control. In one engagement against the Soviets at the River Tizer in 1943, Hungarian radar-controlled guns brought down all 25 attacking Petlyakov Pe 2 aircraft.

The Nimrod anti-aircraft tank was a Hungarian 38M Toldi chassis with a Bofors gun mounted in a high open-topped turret overhanging to the rear. The gun protruded through a vertical slot in the curved turret front. The turret accommodated a commander, two layers, and a loader. The gun was traversed and elevated manually. The prototype was produced in October 1941, and the Nimrod saw service from 1942 onwards in both AA and, less successfully, anti-tank (AT) roles. This was the first armoured self-propelled AA mounting of the Bofors gun.
From: http://www.wwiitechpubs.info/barrack/in ... rs-br.html

I suspect the caption of the picture is a mistake, it should be 80mm Bofors gun. The Hungarians did have some of these guns, designated as 80mm 29/38M.

To my best knowledge, the Hungarians only had two types of 75mm guns in service, Skoda M15 Mountain Guns (designated as 75mm 15, 75mm 15/31, and 75mm 15/35M), and a few German PaK 40 (designated as 75mm 40M).

I hope other members can shed more light on this issue.

Best Regards!
Don’t forget that 38M Toldi is made in Sweden with the name Landsverk L60
And the Nimrod is made in Sweden with the name Luftvärnskanonvagn L-62 Anti :wink:

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Post by Orok » 06 Nov 2003, 16:03

Napoli wrote:Some great photo's in there Orok, I came across one about 8 months ago of some Hungarian soldiers lying on a tarp or something on top of a train heading towards the Russian front, have you seen it by chance?
Thanks Napoli, I don't remember seeing this particular picture. But I'll look through my collection tonight when I get home.

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Post by Orok » 06 Nov 2003, 16:06

luno wrote:Don’t forget that 38M Toldi is made in Sweden with the name Landsverk L60
And the Nimrod is made in Sweden with the name Luftvärnskanonvagn L-62 Anti :wink:
Yes indeed! Both vehicles were made in Hungary under Swedish licenses. :lol:

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Post by Orok » 07 Nov 2003, 02:26

Hi Napoli, I am sorry I don't have the picture you mentioned. If you ever found that photo again please let me know. I would like very much to see it! :lol:

Here are two more pics:
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Hungarian troops of the Mobile Corps entering the town of Kolomea during the initial stage of Barbarossa, July 1941.
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Hungarian troops in recovered terrirory of northern Transylvania, September 1940
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Post by Orok » 07 Nov 2003, 02:31

One more:
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German GFM Model inspecting Hungarian troops, 1944
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Post by Orok » 07 Nov 2003, 02:38

Soldier with a puppy! :lol:
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Post by Napoli » 08 Nov 2003, 03:53

I'll try to find it Orok but I dont have much hope as I found it while searching for Hussar photo's by mistake.
May have to give me a few days to produce the goods :?

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Post by Orok » 08 Nov 2003, 06:08

Thank you Napoli, I am waiting for your good news.

Meanwhile, here are two more pictures of pre-WWII Hungarian soldiers, both in the M1922 dress uniform. Enjoy!
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vitéz Tengerdi-Magyar Ferenc György 1933
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Honved with marksman lanyard
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Post by Orok » 08 Nov 2003, 06:18

Hi Napoli,

Since you were looking for Huszar photos, there are some more for you:
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Not really Huszar but still have horses in it!
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Not Huszar but horse drawn wagen!
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