Germany's Allies casualties on the Eastern Front

Victor · Post by **Victor** » 16 Jun 2002 07:12

I am interested to know how many casualties Germany's allies suffered on the Eastern Front between 22 June 1941-12 May 1945.

Juha Hujanen · Post by **Juha Hujanen** » 16 Jun 2002 15:33

Finnish casualties between 15.6.41-31.5.45.(inclued casualties from fights against Germans)

60901 killed
7147 mia
147957 wounted

DenesBernad · Post by **DenesBernad** » 17 Jun 2002 00:41

During 1941-1945, Hungary lost approx. 340.000-360.000 soldiers (of which between 120.000-160.000 were KIA, the rest is MIA, or died of wounds and illness).
Over 600.000 Hungarian citizens ended up as POW to the Soviets (some 20% civilians). Of these, between 150.000-200.000 died in captivity.
Military losses represented 6.73% of the total population of wartime Hungary, the fourth highest percentage after Poland, USSR and Germany.

Dénes

Csaba Becze · Post by **Csaba Becze** » 17 Jun 2002 10:35

More Hungarian soldier perished in Soviet captivity, than in fight against the Red Army.
I think, Dénes' infos come from the Lexicon about Hungary in World War II, but it contains a lot of mistakes (an "expert" wrote in this book, that the air raid against Kassa was a Yugoslav, or Bulgarian attack

)

cptstennes · Post by **cptstennes** » 18 Jun 2002 17:55

I note that many thousands of Italian prisoners were kept in the USSR and many perished there. Notably, the Italian Communist leader, Togliatti, was instrumental in keeping them there. Regards, F.

Marcus · Post by **Marcus** » 18 Jun 2002 20:16

Slovakian Losses (22 June 1941 - 31 Mar 1944)
Killed 1.235
Wounded 3.198
Missing 2.243
Prisoners 294

Source: "Germany's First Ally: Armed forces of the Slovak State 1939-1945" by Charles K Kliment & Bretislav Nakládal

/Marcus

Andy H · Post by **Andy H** » 21 Jun 2002 20:23

Romanian losses were:
72,291 Dead
242,425 Wounded
283,322 Missing

598,038 in Total with a further 169,822 (D,W,M) from August 28th'44-12/05/45.

Andy from the Shire

Andy H · Post by **Andy H** » 21 Jun 2002 20:31

For Hungary I have a figure of 136,000 killed approx

Bulgarian losses fighting the Axis from September'44 were some 31,910, killed wounded or missing.

2,500 Walloons died on the Eastern Front.

Spain lost 3,938 killed, 8,466 were wounded whilst Russia claimed only 321 Spaniards as POW's

Andy from the Shire

Victor · Post by **Victor** » 22 Jun 2002 11:40

In the Romanian MIA figure are included also the 130,000 taken by the Russians AFTER the 23 August (even in September, when the Romanian army was fighting side-by-side with them) I believe.

Csaba Becze · Post by **Csaba Becze** » 24 Jun 2002 09:40

The Red Army seized 720 000 (!!!) Hungarians till 1946 Summer (!!!). A lot of civilians were captured by "POW's".
This number contains the real POW's too during the war, a lot of were civilians.
At least 300 000 never returned.

Juha Hujanen · Post by **Juha Hujanen** » 24 Jun 2002 18:54

The Red Army seized 720 000 (!!!) Hungarians till 1946 Summer (!!!). A lot of civilians were captured by "POW's".
This number contains the real POW's too during the war, a lot of were civilians.
At least 300 000 never returned.

In Robert Grupp's The Tracks of God-story of Henry Olehmsen-he recalls when he was transfered to powcamp one of Germans died in his boxcar.Russian guards just throw Hungarian postal worker who was at station to boxcar.And the headcount was in order again

Csaba Becze · Post by **Csaba Becze** » 25 Jun 2002 13:58

Marcus:

This book is contains the exact Slovakian losses during the border incident in March 1939 with Hungary?

Germany's First Ally: Armed forces of the Slovak State 1939-1945" by Charles K Kliment & Bretislav Nakládal

I would be really grateful, if you send me this losses (or write here).

I know the Slovakian Air Force's exact losses, but I don't know the Slovakian ground troop's losses.

Regards,
Csaba

Csaba Becze · Post by **Csaba Becze** » 26 Jun 2002 09:52

Well, I try to estimate Hungary's losses:

The Army lost approx. 120 000 killed and more than 200 000 wounded. I don't want to estimate the POW's number, because a lot of were civilians.
For example: Budapest's defender forces were approx. 70 000 Hungarian and German soldiers. After the siege, the Soviet generals complained to Stalint, that the defender forces were approx 160 000 soldiers, because they wanted to explaine their huge losses and slow advances.
They deportated more than 140 000 civilians from Budapest as a "POW's"...

The civilian losses:
approx. 450 000 Hungarian Jewish people were murdered (most of them in Auschwitz);
at least 30 000 Hungarian civilians killed during the military operations (siege of Budapest, bombing raids, etc);
more than 30 000 Hungarian civilians were murdered by Serb partisans in 1944/45 in South Hungary;
at least 3-4000 civilians were sacked and killed by enemy soldiers (and a lot of women died after brutal rapes on their wounds, or were shooted down) This number was higher, but I don't dare to estimate this (BTW more than 50 000 Hungarian women were raped by enemy soldiers, most of them 5-10 times(!), and most of them were infected by an Asian variant of syphilis);
more than 300 000 deportated civilians and POW's never returned from Soviet Union.

Hungary lost more than 900 000 souls.

Marcus · Post by **Marcus** » 26 Jun 2002 16:04

Csaba Becze wrote:This book is contains the exact Slovakian losses during the border incident in March 1939 with Hungary?

No, I don't think so, but I will take a look.

/Marcus

Lupo Solitario · Post by **Lupo Solitario** » 28 Jun 2002 21:03

about 80000 italians dead of which 35000 while russian POWs

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