April 1942, Eastern Front

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April 1942, Eastern Front

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Post by pdhinkle36ID » 01 Apr 2002, 00:56

German Forces recieved help from Italy, Rumania, Hungary, Slovakia, & Spain. All sent units, in all 51 Divisions were added to the German order of battle
Many have asked on this forum about non-german troops. Some members may have gained citizenship in this manner. Why not ask.
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Post by Rommel » 01 Apr 2002, 01:11

and your point is...


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Post by Gwynn Compton » 02 Apr 2002, 02:05

Indeed, I too am lost for what the point is for this post.

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Post by Benoit Douville » 03 Apr 2002, 06:26

To learn something i guess.

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Post by Gwynn Compton » 03 Apr 2002, 11:23

What exactly though is what we're not understanding...

The countries all sent help to Russia, partyly because they feared Russia, and mostly because they feared what Germany would do to them if they didn't.

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Post by Victor » 03 Apr 2002, 21:08

What is the question of this topic?

Btw, you forgot to add the Croatians...

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another one

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Post by vils » 18 Apr 2002, 15:51

..and the Nordic SS Wiking division!

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Post by Victor » 18 Apr 2002, 17:21

That was an SS division, not an allied army unit.

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Post by Andy H » 19 Apr 2002, 19:15

Don't forget the Finnish divisions.

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Post by Tiwaz » 22 Apr 2002, 07:53

Cheshire Yeomanry wrote:Don't forget the Finnish divisions.

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I doubt they count in this case. I don't think they were part of German order of battle.

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RE: The countries all sent help to Russia...

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Post by MVSNConsolegenerale » 23 Apr 2002, 08:17

The sent people into Russia because they wanted a piece of the Soviet Pie. the question you should be asking is why Germany allowed its allies to send troops in, something which they didn't want on June 22.

My answer to this is that after the 1941 disaster infront of Moscow, which I argue was the whole turning point - not stalingrad of operation overlord, they needed troops and they needed them badly fill holes in the front.

Of course, none of Germany's allies knew how disasterous 41 had been.

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Post by MVSNConsolegenerale » 23 Apr 2002, 08:22

and nobody feared russia on the axis side (and much of the allied), nobody took them seriously enough. Eg. If Poland had allowed the Soviet Union into their mutual protection pact with england the entire war would never have happened - they didn't....

so neither did Italy,Germany (take them seriously that is).

Interestingly, when the German generals knew that all was basically lost in late 42, Mussolini and his generals didn't even know the condition of his troops...which had dissolved napolean style under the Soviet Onslaughts.

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Post by Andy H » 23 Apr 2002, 21:24

Tiwaz

German and Finnish troops fought in several Army and Korps together on the far extreme of the Eastern Front, so yed they should be included and yes like every satelite country that sent troops they all had there own agenda's.

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Post by Tiwaz » 24 Apr 2002, 09:27

Cheshire Yeomanry wrote:Tiwaz

German and Finnish troops fought in several Army and Korps together on the far extreme of the Eastern Front, so yed they should be included and yes like every satelite country that sent troops they all had there own agenda's.

:D From the Shire
Really? I know there were German troops in Lapland ~41-44 (and 45 when they were considered enemies) and a battalion of Finns was recruited to Waffen-SS, this arrangement lasted from 41-43.

I still do not see how it should be added...

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Finns should not be added

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Post by JariL » 24 Apr 2002, 09:45

Hi,

As of 1942 Finns should not be added because the German main effort was in the South. There were no special plans going on in the North and Germans did not make any specific requests to the Finns about any major operations. Finnish front, including the German part of it in Lappland remained relatively calm until summer 1944.

In the general picture Finland was of course on the German side but it's resources were not at German disposal in april 1942. Thus counting them in would just inflate the numbers but would not have any real significance. Besides, when Germans were getting ready to attack in the South Finns demobilezed almost half of their army.

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