Erste Weltkrieg Sturmgepack?

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Erste Weltkrieg Sturmgepack?

Post by jugendkrieger » 31 Dec 2007 01:30

Anyone have any picture on how this was done correctly ? i apologize if my terminology is wrong but i am talking about the Blanket folded around the mess kit and affixed to the y straps. anyone ?




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Post by Langemann » 31 Dec 2007 04:03

Marc,

Are you talking about the 'affe' or cow-hide covered early war pack? If so, a great article on how to pack it properly can be found at: http://www.dererstezug.com/packingatornister.htm

Mind you, you should have an Infanterie "Reibert" manual in your collection where you could find this information from yourself. Should you not have a "Reibert" I'd consider putting it on your list of purchases.

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Post by nihil » 31 Dec 2007 04:07

And for those who do not speak (nor read) german, the nice fellow at http://www.germanmanuals.com should have an english translation done sometimes in 2008.

The best way is of course to get an german reibert and learn the language :)

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Post by jugendkrieger » 31 Dec 2007 04:42

Not the "affe", it is a configuration of the Mess kit and Blanket only. and it is secured to the o ring on the y-straps, i am told it was a world war one thing that was carried over into the second,

This is what i have come up with but I am not sure it is correct
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Post by Gesetz » 31 Dec 2007 04:59

Can you sow the back? Is it just a breadbag strap? How does it attach to the O-ring? I couldnt see that being too functional or comfortable with only one suspension point...

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Post by jugendkrieger » 31 Dec 2007 05:28

Herr Gesetz,

Hopefully this Helps, Its actually pretty comfortable, as for being functional Well.... Er... Not in a million years. youd need to take the thing completely off to get into your food, but i think that may be the point. hmm.

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The Entire Assembly Is attached directly to the mess tin, so you just put the mess tin on the "O" ring like this.

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Post by Gesetz » 31 Dec 2007 05:36

Hmmm neat. Does it jingle jangle alot when you move though? That's more along the lines of functionality I was thinking of. I'll stick to my Afram with blanket instead :wink:

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Post by jugendkrieger » 31 Dec 2007 06:03

No Jingle Jangle, the "Play" Really Depends on how tight the Mess tin is attached to the "O" Ring. The Straps are very easily adjusted to make it silent.


And as an edit, I Have just made this current configuration up based on playing around with it and What I've heard from some knowledgeable people. if anyone knows of a website or a picture that shows the correct way to put this together id love to see it.


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Post by cpittman » 31 Dec 2007 15:56

This isn't shown in the Reibert.

Here is a link that shows the WWI version of the Sturmgepaeck:

http://www.fusregt73.net/sturmgepack.htm

This was often done with the Zeltbahn in WWII, here is a link with a photo showing what this looked like:

http://www.mp44.nl/equipment/zelt_wear.htm

See also this original photo.
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Post by cruff » 31 Dec 2007 16:26

Check out cpittman on spot with the good info! Good going!
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Post by jugendkrieger » 31 Dec 2007 16:30

Wait, Wait, Wait, on the füsilier page it shows the bread bag strap being used as shoulder straps? but in the second one it shows the same but with what looks to be Zelt Rope(maybe Mess tin Handle?) attached to the Bread bag strap to make shoulder straps? or does it go in the "O" Ring ?


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Post by cpittman » 31 Dec 2007 16:35

The WWI style uses a bread bag strap as shoulder straps, as seen in the original WWII photo posted above. The mp44.nl site shows how this can be done with equipment straps and the Y-strap O-ring. Really you can do whatever is comfortable. You need to be a little guy to do it with a bread bag strap.

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Post by jugendkrieger » 31 Dec 2007 16:51

So the one posted is ok ??


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Post by Gesetz » 31 Dec 2007 18:21

Marc, in most armies you'll see that when in the field, if it works it's 'ok'.
Using the breadbag straps as shoulder straps is logical and much easier to remove in a haste if you must.

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Post by Dare Furor » 31 Dec 2007 18:43

jugendkrieger wrote:...as for being functional Well.... Er... Not in a million years. youd need to take the thing completely off to get into your food, but i think that may be the point. hmm.
I think the point was to teach teamwork. If you wanted to sneak a snack on the march, you needed help from a comerade: you were dependent on each other. There was no such idea as "An Army of One" (Mensch...of all the slogans they had to choose, that one was the best? Oy vey!)

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