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Pirschen Products

Post by carroll » 02 Apr 2008 02:54

Hello.
Thinking about ordering a few tunics from Ant-z militaria.
Anyone ordered his new wool line of tunics?
I was interested in the M37 and M36 Officers.
Regards Ray.

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Re: Pirschen Products

Post by Gesetz » 02 Apr 2008 03:14

Do a search it's been discussed a few days ago.

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Re: Pirschen Products

Post by Dare Furor » 02 Apr 2008 15:05

carroll wrote:Hello.
Thinking about ordering a few tunics from Ant-z militaria.
Anyone ordered his new wool line of tunics?
I was interested in the M37 and M36 Officers.
Regards Ray.


If you want officers' quality kit, go with Bill Bureau or R.A. Underwood. An officer would fork-out the extra Reichmarks :lol:

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(who is selling a kidney to pay for his Janke officer's tunic)

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Re: Pirschen Products

Post by Parsifal » 03 Apr 2008 18:24

carroll wrote:Hello.
Thinking about ordering a few tunics from Ant-z militaria.
Anyone ordered his new wool line of tunics?
I was interested in the M37 and M36 Officers.
Regards Ray.


Didn't order a tunic but just got my Keilhosen from him. Nice thick wool and good worksmanship. He also makes the stuff to your size which is great. You don't want to be in a hurry with him though, my pants took almost 4 weeks to get.

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Re: Pirschen Products

Post by Matthias Tiemann » 03 Apr 2008 19:47

He just mailed out my M43 tunic and trousers, Ill let you know once they arrive.

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Re: Pirschen Products

Post by carroll » 04 Apr 2008 01:31

Thanks for all responses.
His items seem much improved, he is even claiming om Ebay that his M36.40 42 and 43 are better than Sturm. I decided to go ahead and ordered a M37.
For $55.00 i dont have much to loose.
I will post my opinions when it arrives.
Regards Ray.

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Re: Pirschen Products

Post by Gesetz » 04 Apr 2008 01:58

You better not start bidding against me on the m37!!! :lol:

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Re: Pirschen Products

Post by gdmoore28 » 04 Apr 2008 03:16

Thumbs-up on the Pirschen products. I'm waiting for my third tunic from him. The new "European" wool is nice and thick, and the new cut (shorter skirt, with sleeves just below the hem) is a huge improvement in the overall appearance of the tunic.

The only glitch I've had is in proper sizing. Be sure that you furnish him your exact body measurements, and the exact chest measurement of the tunic. He has been very good about correcting the mistakes.

I also have a set of his pants, and they are equally nice. Same for his summer HBTs. Some of the best I've come across so far.

GeeDeeEmm

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Re: Pirschen Products

Post by Dare Furor » 04 Apr 2008 15:27

carroll wrote:For $55.00 i dont have much to loose.


You have about $80.00 to lose. If for any reason you are dissatisfied, (for example: neck is too large), and you go with a (for example) Lost Battalions M-37 for $350.00, you will have spent $430.00.

I have spent more on un-satisfactory boots, than two pair of Mattimore's would cost. I have spent on re-pro e-tools, enough to have purchased (and wisely invested) one original 2WW German e-tool. Yes, you could spend as much on one LB tunic as five Pirschens, but at that point, $400.00 is $400.00. Does it matter if you spent it on one tunic or five? Look at it this way: would you rather receive as a present one Janke Feldbluse, or seven Pirschens?

I work in the entertainment industry. I am involved in Seven Years' War, War of American Independence, War of 1812, American Civil War, Great War, 2WW, and recently Iraq War. I need a variety of "costumes." I have, and am pleased with, my "At The Front" M-40 (although I now think it's a bit long), My "Der Stahladler" 1940s LW Tropical uniform, and my Pirschen M-43 Mantel. However, if 2WW were my one true passion (Ugh! That über-over-used word!), I would have one beaten and battered, torn and patched, Janke Feldbuse, and one spanking Waffenrock.

After looking at shirts for three or four years, I spent the extra money on a Lost Battalions KM Bordmütze, and two tropical shirts. I had two ATF tropical shirts for the price of one LB, but the collar and construction just didn't seem right (too American), but that's for another thread.

I am in no way against Pirschen. We want good-quality kit at easier to acquire prices. We must also realise that, as Oskar Schindler's script writer says, "Nice things cost money." Quality materials, quality construction, and quality know-how increase the cost of production. The Janke company may not suffer, but realise that the re-enactor market may see a time when we can no longer get Janke Feldblusen, because it is no ;longer economically feasible to manufacture them when the demand no longer warrants production. Price also increases with demand. Maybe Janke will eventually lower their prices. These are just points to consider.

Time for my methylphenidate,

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Post by Schnert » 04 Apr 2008 22:45

gdmoore28 wrote:Thumbs-up on the Pirschen products. I'm waiting for my third tunic from him. The new "European" wool is nice and thick, and the new cut (shorter skirt, with sleeves just below the hem) is a huge improvement in the overall appearance of the tunic.

GeeDeeEmm


Wait a minute! I thought that that whole short skirt / long sleeves thing was a Lost Battalions marketing ploy? :roll:

I'd go with Sturm or Janke.

If you douse Pirschen's products with petrol and set them on fire, they don't pass the burn test.

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Re: Pirschen Products

Post by Dieter » 05 Apr 2008 03:56

[quote="Dare Furor"][... Maybe Janke will eventually lower their prices.

I really wouldn't hold my breath waiting for Herr Janke to drop his prices. As you will admit, his products really ARE "Porsche" and most of the others are "Lada" (IMHO, LB and RAU compare as Mercedes). You pay through the nose for quality, and even MORE when considering the devaluation of the U.S. dollar against the Euro. :(

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Re: Pirschen Products

Post by Gesetz » 05 Apr 2008 05:52

Sorry the sad face emoticon made me smile. For years we've been competing with your dollar value, for once we can buy at par if not at a better rate! :D

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Re: Pirschen Products

Post by Wilhelm Gruber II » 05 Apr 2008 12:45

yeah i must say im happy with the devaluing Us dollar in the fact i can now buy stuff from there with out it costing much more then it would in Oz

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Re: Pirschen Products

Post by willie777 » 05 Apr 2008 16:23

I knew I should have kept the CAD part of my paypal account open...

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Re: Pirschen Products

Post by Parsifal » 05 Apr 2008 23:01

Here's a review sent to me by one of our unit members. It was posted on one of the reenactor group pages. In my view tunics are a big gamble to take with Far East sellers. Wouldn't buy boots from these dudes either. I still like Ant-Z's pants, and other parts of the impression that aren't so tough to reproduce:


Well the devil made me do it.

I purchased two of these tunics just to see how they crack, worse case I'm
using them for a steampunk deal I'm putting together for Costume Con..

And well, I have notes.

Let's just say that most of you guys out there that defend some of the crappy
products out there as "good enough" don't sew, don't understand fabric, and
don't grock thread count.

Also, all of you out there who have ever laid out a pattern from scratch that
involves darts or surging put your hands up...

Kay the three of you put your hands down the rest of you listen up!


First off-
the "General's tropical Jacket"
$90 from ant Z (free shipping), Stahladler $120 (free shipping)
http://www.reenactment-box.com/?do=product&pid=43
AKA
http://stahladler.com/store/index.php?m ... 73&product\
s_id=240

Made the German way, if it's 1945 and you need cheap Urgic labor..
Nevermind the LOUSY ass cut of the jacket. I like the 1986 Don Johnson look.
I ordered a size 46, it came as a size 46. I was shocked! Right of the bat
that clobbers The HK Keith stuff I have seen.

Material; not bad, Chinese wool on the collar, cheap thread, and oddly totally
lacking that chocolate mixed with poop smell that most Chinese products have.


Notions; Typical make in China buttons, crappy pressed metal, the hook and
eyes on the neck were improperly sewn, the loop on the bottom was set too far
back to connect. Came with a WTF!?!?! Sword hanger attached by a 1/2" ribbon
tacked to the armpit.

TL/DR Somebody saw a picture and may have actually touched a waffenrock and
decided to make this tunic using a Ralph Loren pattern from the mid 80s.
Bastard love child.


next up-
WW2 German WH OFFICER SUMMER "WAFFEROCK" JACKET
$90 from ant Z (free shipping), Stahladler $140 (free shipping)
http://www.reenactment-box.com/?do=product&pid=32
http://stahladler.com/store/index.php?m ... 73&product\
s_id=201

kay sure whatever.

Anyway.
I ordered a 46, got a 48 with 44 sleeves on it. THAT'S the China I know and
love.

Material, Not bad? effectively unlined, (take it back the POCKETS are lined)
the cut is slightly better, The treatment of the back buttons on this makes me
fear what horrors they visit on the actual "Waffenrock". I have visions of the
buttons in back being buttons, but I digress..

Notions, same as above, but with crappier buttons. Cheap pot metal, cast faces
on stamped backs.
The hook on the neck kinda worked, the neck was too small and I have a super
skinny femmy little neck..
Also features the WTF!?!? sword/dagger hanger, but with a far more primitive
hook.

Both jackets came with a complimentary EK2 "ribbon" if by ribbon they mean a
3/4" version of that stuff they web cheap lawn chairs with.
*garbage*
take the cost of that ribbon and put it towards buttons that don't suck
complete ass and I'll be much more impressed.

So..

$49 to replace the buttons, $65 for insignia, $35 for shoulder boards,
~$130 at the cornholio price on the tunics..
+4 man hours to make them suck less @$30 an hour (I give myself a discount)

I got a $269 tunic that still needs some professional tailoring to look right/
to be 89% authentic..


But at the end of the day who else makes these models of tunic?

So there you have it.
pray to you heathen gods.
-A

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