Berghof Obersalzberg

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Re: Berghof Obersalzberg

Postby Biber » 20 Mar 2017 14:18

Sorry, I didn't pursue reading that caption.

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Re: Berghof Obersalzberg

Postby Biber » 20 Mar 2017 14:19

[edit to remove double post]
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Re: Berghof Obersalzberg

Postby Geoff Walden » 20 Mar 2017 22:18

Mannheim wrote:Geoff:
Any details on this new "Documentation Centre expansion"? First I've heard of it.


Gary,
Sorry! I completely forgot to answer this - tut mir leid! I just ran across this again ...

The basic info (all in German) is here - http://www.obersalzberg.de/geschichte11.html

Much detail is here - http://www.stbats.bayern.de/hochbau/dokustelle.php , along with a lot of plan drawings and even period building plans.

These plans indicate that the unfinished so-called Förderstollen that would have been an exit to the Platterhof tunnel will be incorporated into the new display (which will be mostly underground, in the hillside across from the current Dokumentation). I've also read it described as a continuation or completion of the current tunnel tour. Not sure how this will work ... do they intend to open up the other end of this tunnel, inside the current tunnel (at the end where the steps lead up to the Platterhof basement)?

Other folks in other places have indicated that the Berghof site should be incorporated as well, even proposing some sort of "anti-nazifying" structure similar to the glass "spear" at the RPT area museum in Nuernberg. (I think any such plans will radically change visitation to the Berghof site.). Another very welcome idea is to stop ignoring the other ruins and sites and erect interpretive markers all around. I've been preaching this idea for years, and I hope they really will do this. (Although their discussions make it clear that they want no sort of "nazi trail" in the area.)

As planned, there will be VERY big changes to the Obersalzberg in the next 3-4 years.

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Re: Berghof Obersalzberg

Postby Mannheim » 22 Mar 2017 00:39

No worries, Geoff! I had planned to be in Germany again from April 13 but my 98-year-old ex-Luftwaffe mother-in-law has current health issues so we won't be going until September/October now. They may have made some progress by then. Let's hope the site doesn't turn into a shopping centre .

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Re: Berghof Obersalzberg

Postby Johnnyrocket » 22 Mar 2017 17:48

The last witness: Bodyguard who found Hitler and Eva Braun's dead bodies and once walked in on Fuhrer's mistress in a flimsy nightie reveals intimate details of their private lives in candid photos

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Re: Berghof Obersalzberg

Postby Annelie » 22 Mar 2017 18:56

Nice photo.....what are those (?) all over in glasses?

Who actually commissioned this book? Does anyone know?
Wonder if his daughter is involved?

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Re: Berghof Obersalzberg

Postby Max » 23 Mar 2017 02:23

Max wrote:Who first published this poster?
Was it Kier on his Traces of Evil site?
http://www.tracesofevil.com/search/labe ... 27s%20Nest
I notice that there is a quote by Geoff Walden

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I just came across this [ looking for something else]
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It was you who created the Berghof posters about 10 years ago.
Congratulations on a great job.
You are too modest.
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Re: Berghof Obersalzberg

Postby Max » 23 Mar 2017 06:02

This is for more recent members who may not have caught up with this excellent collection of Berghof pics

Harry von Gebhardt Collection


https://plus.google.com/photos/10978183 ... 4590960368
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Re: Berghof Obersalzberg

Postby Johnnyrocket » 23 Mar 2017 11:10

Max, these are great Berghof architectural images, thanks for the link. I tried to find these renderings few weeks ago but ran out of time.

Yes, a friend and I designed the two Berghof posters you mentioned, we also did ones for the Reich Chancellery, Wolfs Lair (Wolfschanze), Göring's Carinhall and the Berlin Führer-Bunker.

A link to a great Führer Bunker documentary on the History Channel:

http://www.history.co.uk/shows/inside-h ... hancellery
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Re: Berghof Obersalzberg

Postby CPB » 27 Mar 2017 09:33

Sledging past the Führer's house...who knew.
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Re: Berghof Obersalzberg

Postby Biber » 27 Mar 2017 13:21

First a bowling alley in the Berghof and now this - what's next?

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Re:Platterhof towel(s)

Postby Sarge8 » 31 Mar 2017 20:47

Good afternoon.
Here is a photo of a towel I recently acquired. Appears to have come from a "wash room" at the Platterhof. Measures about 18" X 28". I also have another towel (?) which I would like an opinion on. It measures about 9 feet long by about 19" wide. Could this be either A: from a roll of unfinished towels; B: a towel from one of those old fashioned continous feed towels one used to see in bathrooms; or C: something else altogether.

Also just scored a bunch of Platterhof glasses I'll put as a separate post.
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Re:Platterhof items

Postby Sarge8 » 31 Mar 2017 21:01

I love Platterhof items and they seem to be getting harder to find. But sometimes you just fall into them. A dealer had 2 glasses for sale on-line which I purchased at a "fair" price. After I got them, she said she had more! I wound up getting 12 of one style and 4 of another!! Now that my may bank account has stopped smoking, thought I would post pics.
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Re: Berghof Obersalzberg

Postby Annelie » 31 Mar 2017 21:17

All you need is china dinner plates then you can host an WWII era dinner party. :)

Looks like you already have the plate chargers....decorative plate that goes under the dinner plate
or are those silver plates for serving?

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Re: Berghof Obersalzberg

Postby Sarge8 » 01 Apr 2017 02:19

Thanks, Annelie

I do have three china plates, just have not unpacked them. They are 3 different sizes. Also have a fitted box which contains 12 demitasse cups and saucers. There are a few oval serving platters (?) and 11 or 12 round silver plate chargers. The plates came from another person who had more plates than the ones they put up at auction. I'm a sucker for Platterhof 'stuff'. I have a few pieces of Chiemsee Rasthaus silver and silverware. I have only seen one picture of Chiemsee plates. White with red logo. The quality did not look as nice as the blue/white Platterhof china.


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