Berghof Obersalzberg

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Re: Berghof Obersalzberg

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Post by Geoff Walden » 18 Oct 2017, 21:31

Yes, lots! As you mention, mostly (or all) in the woods. Up behind the Berghof site are several, including one from a Tallboy or Cookie bomb. Some beside the path to the Teehaus, some in the woods below the Goering house site, some in the "Adlergehege" facility, etc.
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Post by tunix0 » 19 Oct 2017, 10:03

headwest wrote:I was just wondering if some of the bomb craters are still there? When i look at the aerial pictures of the bombing I see some pretty large ones that I think are in the woods now etc? Just curious of any of the craters are still there.

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Hi,

as Geoff mentioned there are a lot of craters. During my visit in 2016 I have photographed some of them. But they are difficult to see in the photos, because so many plants block the view.

Here are two photos of the Bodnerbichl Hill Tour from Geoff's book "Hitler's Berchtesgaden: A Guide to Third Reich Sites in the Berchtesgaden and Obersalzberg Area". The first shows a crater beside the walking path at the Berghof Water Reservoir, the second shows the Tallboy Crater above the Berghof Complex. It's very huge and as i mentioned, it's difficult to see the extent of the crater in a photo.

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Post by Max » 19 Oct 2017, 10:57

Greetings from the Wide Brown.

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Post by headwest » 19 Oct 2017, 19:02

thanks so much! very cool! and the pics are amazing

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Post by CPB » 21 Oct 2017, 19:36

I picked up one of these maps recently. They're not particularly rare, but on the reverse the GI [a commander of an AAA Bn] obtained the signature of "Hitler's elevator op[erator]"

Does anyone know who this might be? I didn't even know Hitler had a dedicated elevator operator, so I'm guessing whoever this was probably just said it to impress the GIs.
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Post by Geoff Walden » 23 Oct 2017, 01:34

Not much help ... sorry ... I saw the name of the primary operator of the Kehlsteinhaus elevator in some book, but I can't recall either the book or the name. Maybe one of us will run across it ...
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Post by Geoff Walden » 23 Oct 2017, 15:51

I think you found a goodie, my friend!
There is a US Army report dated 28 May 1945, titled "Hitler's Mountain Retreat," subtitled "Adlerhof - The Eagle's Nest," which contains info from the Kehlsteinhaus elevator operator and maintainer - one Georg Mehr. Clearly the signature on your map - cool!
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Post by CPB » 23 Oct 2017, 22:04

Geoff, that’s awesome - great detective work! Thanks as ever.

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Post by CPB » 23 Oct 2017, 22:13

Just to add to that, a quick Google search shows Mehr’s daughter now lives in the US. There’s a whole story about it here:

http://www.metrowestdailynews.com/x1294 ... ith-Hitler

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Post by hsa601 » 23 Oct 2017, 22:18

Hi Guys,

Does it not seem odd that he signed using his surname first? Not sure I know anyone that signs their name in such a way? Any thoughts?

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Post by Geoff Walden » 23 Oct 2017, 22:53

CPB wrote:Just to add to that, a quick Google search shows Mehr’s daughter now lives in the US. There’s a whole story about it here:
http://www.metrowestdailynews.com/x1294 ... ith-Hitler
Outstanding article! Great info!
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And here is another pic of Herr Mehr, standing in the elevator, from a 1945 French publication about Berchtesgaden.
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hsa601 wrote:Hi Guys,
Does it not seem odd that he signed using his surname first? Not sure I know anyone that signs their name in such a way? Any thoughts?
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It's the German way ... back then, anyway. Not so much now, but still rather common.
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Post by CPB » 23 Oct 2017, 22:56

Geoff, that photo is unbelievable - thanks for posting.

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Post by Max » 23 Oct 2017, 23:25

Mehr gets a mention in this report -" Hitler's Mountain Retreat"

https://www.scribd.com/doc/92445788/Hit ... in-Retreat
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Post by Geoff Walden » 24 Oct 2017, 01:37

Folks, if you haven't done so, download that document that Max posted above. It's my source for Mehr's name as well as several interesting observations from 1945, and it contains one of the most remarkable 1945 maps I ever saw (showing the Gutshof Stollen, even).

BTW, over the past week there has been some tree cutting at the Berghof site. Apparently there was some vandalism cutting into several trees at the front of the site, that made it so that the forestry service had to completely cut them down. Reason for the vandalism - unknown. Cutting the trees down did really open up the view from the area of the grand picture window, towards the Untersberg mountains to the north.
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Post by Annelie » 24 Oct 2017, 01:52

would be great to download without having to pay $9.00 per month, Ist month free.

Won't let you download without giving card info.......not doing that.

Is there another way of doing this?

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