Reichskanzlei Thread

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Re: Reichskanzlei Thread

Post by ghostsoldier » 06 May 2011 01:59

punkyto wrote:
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Annelie wrote:Bought this film several years ago at german war films.

It was quite disturbing.
Annelie...in what way?

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The movie is very sad, and shows the suffering of most postwar German citizens.
I understand, Pinkyto. In my opinion, however, (and it's just that, an opinion), the only German citizens I personally ever pitied after the fall of Berlin, were the children.

But, I digress...I didn't intend for this to be a moral debate :wink: ; I was curious as to the content, as some scenes look somewhat endangering to the young actors....

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Re: Reichskanzlei Thread

Post by punkyto » 06 May 2011 03:19

ghostsoldier wrote:
punkyto wrote:
ghostsoldier wrote:
Annelie wrote:Bought this film several years ago at german war films.

It was quite disturbing.
Annelie...in what way?

Rob
The movie is very sad, and shows the suffering of most postwar German citizens.
I understand, Pinkyto. In my opinion, however, (and it's just that, an opinion), the only German citizens I personally ever pitied after the fall of Berlin, were the children.

But, I digress...I didn't intend for this to be a moral debate :wink: ; I was curious as to the content, as some scenes look somewhat endangering to the young actors....

Rob
Todo bien Rob :)
I completely agree with you.

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Re: Reichskanzlei Thread

Post by Annelie » 06 May 2011 11:41

Germany Year Zero
The concluding chapter of Roberto Rossellini’s War Trilogy is the most devastating, a portrait of an obliterated Berlin shown through the eyes of a twelve-year-old boy. Living in a bombed-out apartment building with a sick father and two older siblings, young Edmund is mostly left to wander unsupervised, getting ensnared in the black-market schemes of a group of teenagers and coming under the nefarious influence of a Nazi-sympathizing ex-teacher. Germany Year Zero (Deutschland im Jahre Null) is a daring, gut-wrenching look at the consequences of fascism, for society and the individual.
from amazon.com

What they haven't said is how this young boy poisons his Father under the belief that he is doing the right thing.

There were so many children left to fend for themselves in such conditons and the turmoil they went through
not only of the physical side of having to survive in the city but then also trying to figure out about the war
and what it meant.

As with most German films I find (they always have sad endings) this one leaves one feeling sad.

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Re: Reichskanzlei Thread

Post by offandonguy » 06 May 2011 22:53

Is this the tower outside of the Fuhrer Bunker?

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Re: Reichskanzlei Thread

Post by punkyto » 06 May 2011 23:34

Yes
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Re: Reichskanzlei Thread

Post by ghostsoldier » 07 May 2011 19:57

Are those the SS barracks remains in the foreground?
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Re: Reichskanzlei Thread

Post by Red star » 07 May 2011 22:05

ghostsoldier wrote:Are those the SS barracks remains in the foreground?
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Here ruins of one of buildings of a barracks of protection of RK,you had them in view of?
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Re: Reichskanzlei Thread

Post by ghostsoldier » 08 May 2011 01:36

That looks like the rear of the SS kaserne, from the RC garden area....
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Re: Reichskanzlei Thread

Post by Red star » 08 May 2011 03:59

Yes it is.
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Re: Reichskanzlei Thread

Post by ghostsoldier » 12 May 2011 14:58

We've made 100 pages on this thread....awesome! :D
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Re: Reichskanzlei Thread

Post by *NL* » 15 May 2011 06:30

Well, the Berghof Obersalzberg thread is not far behind with 98 pages :-) Both sections are doing great.

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Re: Reichskanzlei Thread

Post by Red star » 16 May 2011 15:16

In the Soviet historiography this building almost has not left traces,as opposed to Reichstag.5 the shock army taken RK has remainded on the second plan.
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Re: Reichskanzlei Thread

Post by Adam Carr » 18 May 2011 02:27

The Soviet obsession with the Reichstagsgebäude is indeed curious. They must have known, because the German Communists in Moscow would have told them, that it had been a burned-out shell since 1933 and had no role at all in Hitler's regime, in fact it was symbol only of the parliamentarianism which the Nazis despised. Yet they insisted on regarding it as the central symbol of the German state and made it their main focus in capturing the centre of the city. Presumably they knew of the NRK's existence, although they didn't know that Hitler was lurking underneath it.

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Re: Reichskanzlei Thread

Post by Vicctor » 25 May 2011 05:18

The general?
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Re: Reichskanzlei Thread

Post by Halfdan S. » 25 May 2011 09:52

Very interesting photo! Thanks for sharing

There weren't that many regular generals around the RK at the end. With Hitler were only Krebs and Burgdorf - both commited suicide in Berlin. Krebs' body was found in the bunker by the russians and was also seen there by Rochus Misch. As far as I have read Burgdorf's body was never accounted for; he was last seen in the Propagandaministerium by Hans Fritzsche. I don't believe its Burgdorf though - the body looks somewhat slimmer than Burgdorf; for comparison there's the photo from the March 20 HJ-parade. Furthermore Gen. Weidling came to the bunker now and then, but didn't die in Berlin, so obviously it's not him.

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