The Munich Thread

[Annelie]

Thankyou Jon,

Love the scuptures in the woods and those beautiful doors.

[panzerplatten]

WWII bomb causes evacuation of central Munich,
More ordinance!
http://m.thelocal.de/national/20120828-44617.html
Mark

[panzerplatten]

More from Der Spiegel
http://m.spiegel.de/international/germa ... edFrom=www.

[Oberhessin]

Guided tour through the "Verwaltungsbau" and "Führerbau" next monday:

"4. Öffentliche Führung zur Geschichte des NSDAP-Parteizentrums

Das Zentralinstitut für Kunstgeschichte veranstaltet am Montag, 8. Oktober, 18.00 Uhr eine Führung zur Geschichte des NSDAP-Parteizentrums mit einem Rundgang durch die Gebäude Katharina-von-Bora-Straße 10 (ehemals „Verwaltungsbau der NSDAP“, heute Gebäude verschiedener Kunstinstitute) und Arcisstraße 12 (ehemals „Führerbau“, heute Hochschule für Musik und Theater).

Teilnahme nur nach Anmeldung bei: Nadine Dobrowolski, Tel. 289-27556, [email protected]"

[Keir]

Guided tour through the "Verwaltungsbau" and "Führerbau" next monday:

Just gave a tour for thirty students, parents, and interested people. Not easy when you're competing with Oktoberfest.
Found this photo of the plaque in the Hofbrauhaus commemorating Hitler's speech of February 24, 1920 laying out the goals of the new Nazi Party in his 25 point programme, as it was left after the war. It's from Richard Bauer's Fliegeralarm, a big book full of photos of Munich after the bombing.

[Annelie]

Just gave a tour for thirty students, parents, and interested people. Not easy when you're competing with Oktoberfest.

LOL....just the same I wish I had been able to join the group for the tour.

[Keir]

Noticed that the memorial to the victims of National Socialism has been removed. One week this month it was here, the next gone, probably for renovations.

[Oberhessin]

I'd like to draw your attention to a new Munich story:
http://www.spiegel.de/politik/deutschla ... 66499.html

[Annelie]

Oberhessin,

I looked online to find an English version but wasn't able.

Could you please give an synopsis of the article, I can read words here and there
but I don't think I understand it completely.

Danke

[Saknussem]

Keir:
This summer the memorial was there. If you go down the same street (I think 300 m, maybe more) you gonna find Heren Temple. Next one of them they are building a musem (research center) about Nationalsocialism in Munich. I want to return in Munich to go to the research center.

[Geoff Walden]

Oberhessin,

I looked online to find an English version but wasn't able.

Could you please give an synopsis of the article, I can read words here and there
but I don't think I understand it completely.

Danke

Annelie,

Story in English from "The Local" - http://www.thelocal.de/society/20121112-46113.html

Geoff

[Annelie]

Thankyou.

15:23 November 12, 2012 by bernie1927
These people have done their penance and have tried to help their community. Why - with 20/20 hindsight - are they still being punished? Remember, at the time when Hitler came to power, many decent people had set their hopes on his success. Is there never an end to this German self punishment? So, she sang for him. Big deal!!

My sentiments too!

[BillHermann]

Thankyou.

15:23 November 12, 2012 by bernie1927
These people have done their penance and have tried to help their community. Why - with 20/20 hindsight - are they still being punished? Remember, at the time when Hitler came to power, many decent people had set their hopes on his success. Is there never an end to this German self punishment? So, she sang for him. Big deal!!

My sentiments too!

I'm not to sure about this ongoing victimization of Germans from their past. It seems that many here are into creating this false victimization through their own personal agenda. Assuming that the current memorials are a way to continue to guilt the Germans. Having lived in Germany for over 8 years I can say that 90 percent don't feel guilt or any victimization through the creation of memorials to the victims. There is a small percentage of Germans that feel that way however they also have other issues their past. .

[Annelie]

Does anyone ever get the feeling that some posters seem to be putting out there that they
are unbiased yet when one looks at the overall posts it seems to be the opposite?

It seems that many here are into creating this false victimization through their own personal agenda

What personal agendas are you talking about.....and who are you talking about?

Actually I thought that myself exactly.

Thank goodness for people like Keir who are completely unbiased and factual and is happy to share
what he finds in a manner that we look forward to.

[David Thompson]

Let's drop the remarks about personal agendas and stay on topic. This is a history forum, not a psychological one, and our readers are interested in historical facts rather than speculations about the thought processes of forum members.