Führerhauptquartiere Werwolf

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Führerhauptquartiere Werwolf

Post by ghostsoldier » 17 Feb 2012 05:05

I'm looking for info on the remains of the Werwolf HQ in Vinnytsia, Ukraine ...specifically, photos (past and present), plans or layout, and particularly the former location on Google Earth...can anyone help?

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Re: Führerhauptquartiere Werwolf

Post by PavelH » 17 Feb 2012 10:21

Hi Rob,
I can help you just with the location 49°18'30.00"S 28°29'36.00"V .Before now, I have tried to find out some former photos and plans of that FHQ and I was totally unsuccessful. Really curious if anyone add some interesting materials for us.

Pavel

a few links from google, haven`t seen before,I suppose Ukrainian laguage, however google translator don`t help me so much...

http://ua-travels.livejournal.com/1495822.html
http://akimboyko.in.ua/2009/03/stavka_wehrwolf_vinnica/

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Re: Führerhauptquartiere Werwolf

Post by ghostsoldier » 25 Feb 2012 03:33

Thanks, Pavel! Here's the only photo I could find, until you sent me those links; there's quite a few good images of the ruins on those websites....

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Full image: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v629/ ... tsia_1.jpg

Google Earth image:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v629/ ... wolfGE.gif

I just wish I could luck up on some documentation (maps, plans, photos) of the HQ in it's prime....

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Re: Führerhauptquartiere Werwolf

Post by ghostsoldier » 25 Feb 2012 03:53

This Google translated from the text of the second link Pavel provided:

Construction bids Werwolf

Bunker was a miniature Wolfsschanze rates in East Prussia and was constructed of several blocks, one of which was on the surface. The underground part - 3 of reinforced concrete bomb shelters, including the main tank with the Führer: 8.5 by 8.5 meters, 2.5 meters thick walls, ceilings - 4.5 meters. The construction of the bunker was built to the cut in the granite quarry. Except for the bunker in the central zone were placed by the Gestapo, a telephone exchange, a dining room for the generals and officers, a swimming pool, 12 houses of generals and senior officers of rates, facilities for Hitler and two underground bunkers. Built nearby airstrip, hydropower, water supply system and greenhouses for growing vegetables. In total, there were 81 land-based complex objects, and a few deep concrete vaults.

Eight kilometers from the "Werewolf", in the villages and Gulivtsy Cherepashintsy, the rate was "Shtaynbruh" (quarry), Hermann Göring, and in summer-autumn 1942go Pirogov hospital in the building of the Supreme Command Headquarters stirred the land and air forces. Near the planned construction of Zhitomir rates Himmler "Hegewald" (forest reserve).

According to the researcher Jaroslav Branko rate history, during the construction of the Germans mobilized 4,086 Soviet prisoners of war, which, after completion of the work had been destroyed. Also carried out "resettlement" of local residents, is very revealing in this respect, the fate of the Jews of the village Strizhavka, who was a few miles from Hitler's headquarters: at the beginning of January, all 227 people were killed. After completion of construction, "just in case" in the air blew the aircraft flew with the German civil engineers.

Using the rate Werwolf

By appointment rate was used by Hitler three times:

July 16 - October 30, 1942. Despite the hot weather in the bunker was very damp. Hitler repeatedly ill with flu symptoms at the time that the temperature rose to 40 degrees. It is in this state has changed the directive number 45, and instead began a consistent simultaneous attack on the Caucasus and Stalingrad.
February 19 - March 13, 1943. Order number 5 - "Operation Citadel" about the environment and the destruction of the Red Army at Kursk. March 13 at the time of the flight was perfect assassination attempt on Hitler in the plane planted a time bomb, but it did not work.
Later, here is the headquarters of Army Group "South" of Field Marshal von Manstein, who visited the Führer August 27 - September 15, 1943. This time, the decision to retreat from the Donets Basin.

December 28, 1943 was a question of eliminating the "Werewolf." In March 1944 the Germans were completely blown all communications using the rates for the number of cars bombs. Shortly before that, Hitler's personal adjutant, Lieutenant-General Schmundt expressed concern that the Fuhrer will remove the furniture in Moscow and organize a public exhibition.

Werewolf after the war

After his release in 1944 Vinnitsa Soviet specialists "officially" have not found anything of value, except for the orange carpet and flooring debris. In 1988-1991, the rate of working in the expedition of the Department of Technical Cybernetics of the Moscow Geological Prospecting Institute, led by Professor LZ Bobrovnikov who managed to recover the exact size of the territory, to establish the location of the main entrance and many buildings. Today, around the forest on the site of the unfinished houses worth betting the town through which the hopper is a primer.


According to this site, it was a "miniature Wolfsschanze" in design...here's a few period photos:
Hitler's Office
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Exterior
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The pool
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Inspection
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Bodyguard's house
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Interior
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Communications room
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Rob
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Re: Führerhauptquartiere Werwolf

Post by kstdk » 25 Feb 2012 12:24

Hello

Some further links here to other pictures and also to the other FHQ:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Werwolf_%28Wehrmacht_HQ%29

http://www.necton.lv/articles/earth/61- ... olf-1.html

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Re: Führerhauptquartiere Werwolf

Post by ghostsoldier » 26 Feb 2012 22:53

That second link is new to me, Kurt...thanks for posting! :)
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Re: Führerhauptquartiere Werwolf

Post by Martinski » 16 May 2012 20:50

Hey Rob!

My name is Martin, from Flanders, Belgium. For the time being I am preparing a very exhaustive and detailed book about the former FHQu "Werwolf" near Vinnitsa (germ.: Winniza).

Since last year, I visited the place 7 times for my resarch and took all measurements, traced all possible foundations and own thousands of photographs, historical & contemporal. We took panoramic and aerial shots.

I digged out all possible information starting with the OKW, the O.T., the FHQu itself, all Staff and personnel.

My book also will cover the full story, the Staff, visitors (incl. the Award-winners, visiting the "Werwolf"), Diplomats, decisions etc. Also the other orbital - HQ's (OKH - OKL - AA & Waffen-SS) will be covered and described. I visited ALL orbital HQ's and pictured & measured them every single inch remaining of them. Also took detailed video (2D & 3D) of everything.

Also the detailed route of the units belonging to the FHQu driving in columns from the FHQu "Wolfsschanze" to FHQu "Wehrwolf" will be covered and described.

There will be a list of Feldpostnummern belonging to all possible units which were involved in this FHQu in Ukraine.

There is a lot of misunderstandings and crap told about this FHQu. Thanks to the recovered RSD files (held by the former KGB in Ukraine - about 5,000 pages in original!) I was able to draw a super-detailed history... I even found an original document giving detailed orders to cover the marsroute from arrival at the airfield to the entrance of the FHQ when Adolf Hitler arrived for the second time in February 1943. Thanks to the description and an original German map, we retraced the marsroute and took pictures on every crossroad where an agent of the "Dienststelle Ost" was guarding the column of the Führer.

Will fly next week back to another one-week work-visit to FHQu "Werwolf", I am invited to read a lecture (as I'm multilingual and russian-speaker) to the Staff of the History Museum in Vinnitsa. Also a crew of a national television Channel will show up to make a documentary over my research and results. This will be on television in Ukraine shortly.

After this visit (my final work one - the book is almost ready) I will start to post items regarding my book.

So - if you're interested in this item - stay tuned. I'm also ready and willing to discuss matters regarding this subject in this Forum.

Kind regards - Martin

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Re: Führerhauptquartiere Werwolf

Post by Martinski » 16 May 2012 20:55

Rob, by the way, as I found several parallels to the FHQu "Wolfsschlucht" in Brûly-de-Pesche (Belgium), I also visited Brûly and took all its measurements and tons of pictures.

Also this will be covered in my book. Nearly all Staff & Third Reich visitors who drew up to "Wolfsschlucht" in June 1940 can be seen on the pictures again in the Summer of 1942 in "Werwolf"... and there is more related between both Field HQ's...

Martin

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Re: Führerhauptquartiere Werwolf

Post by ghostsoldier » 17 May 2012 03:39

Wow, Martin...you are most impressive! I'll be watching intently! :)

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Re: Führerhauptquartiere Werwolf

Post by Martinski » 17 May 2012 17:38

By the way Rob! The only correct spelling of this FHQu is "Wehrwolf" (with '-h'). The name was coosen by A. Hitler himself upon arrival on July 16th 1942.

But it was often misspelled, especially in the documents of the OKH (at that time located in the town of Vinnitsa) and even in the original reports by the RSD / GFP - Gruppe Ost.

So they kept using both spellings in all kind of documents, though the preferred one was "Wehrwolf"!

My guess is that Hitler relayed to the title of a book by Hermann Löns: "Der Wehrwolf", written in 1910. This book was very popular in NS- circles and often reprinted and found in Army and HJ - libraries. I own two copies of this book: one from 1921 and one from 1944. This book was also well known by Hitler.

Note that the OKH - KTB's stubborn use the spelling "Werwolf", as a kind of early "opposing" against the Führer...

Also note that, during the planning and building phase, the codename "Eichenhain" was used. This is an O.T. denomination. The O.T-Baustelle (FPN 40 819) however kept using this codename even until late 1943. The had printed blanks with own letterhead showing "Eichenhain" in capitals. Will post an example afterwards.

This matter also will be discussed in my book.

Regards - Martin

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Re: Führerhauptquartiere Werwolf

Post by Martinski » 17 May 2012 19:00

An example of the use of a printed letter head by the Organisatio Todt - Einsatz Eichenhain.... They kept using these preprinted letters with the codename "Eichenhain" and their FPN 80 419 A throughout their existence (until end 1943).

So ... the codename "Wehrwolf" is exclusively used for the FHQu (only when being in use as a Führerhauptquartier) and the codename "Eichenhain" is exclusively for the O.T. - Bauleitung on-site!

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Re: Führerhauptquartiere Werwolf

Post by Martinski » 17 May 2012 19:19

and another one, note the different font used in the letterhead and the use of the FPN 40 819. Also note the date of this letter: 6. Juni 1943... so this is the proof that the codename "Eichenhain" was still in use, even after the last use by the Führer in March 1943 (he left the FHQu "Wehrwolf" on March 13th, making a detour via the HQ of Heeresgruppe Mitte in Smolensk and flew back to Rastenburg (FHQu "Wolfsschanze").

Hitler went back on just one occasion to "Eichenhain" for a meeting with von Manstein on August 27th 1943. This meeting took place in his former FHQu.

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Re: Führerhauptquartiere Werwolf

Post by muller1945 » 17 May 2012 20:38

I think most of the headquarters names came from the name wolf being that hitler used this name as his nickname or for private purposes. Of all the headquarters wehrwolf is the one with the least information on for sure.

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Re: Führerhauptquartiere Werwolf

Post by Martinski » 17 May 2012 20:46

just wait for my book, I guess you will be amazed... Spent already 7 visits (each for more than a week) in the former FHQu "Wehrwolf". Took thousands of pics, know every square inch now by heart... Went all the way...!!!!

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