Nuremberg Party Rally Grounds

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Re: Nuremberg Party Rally Grounds

Post by Geoff Walden » 14 Nov 2017 22:43

Not the Party Rally Grounds, but Nuernberg news. Couple of photo essays in the local online paper, showing the former SS Kaserne near the Rally Grounds, and a "last look" at the Third Reich period main post office that is scheduled for demolition (the 1930s part of the building, anyway).

This doesn't say anything about it, but I always heard that there is a large mosaic or inlaid swastika in the floor of the entry foyer or the main room of the SS Kaserne, which the US Army left there but covered it over with blue carpeting when this was Merrell Barracks.

http://www.nordbayern.de/region/nuernbe ... 4#ancTitle

http://www.nordbayern.de/region/nuernbe ... -1.6859765
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Re: Nuremberg Party Rally Grounds

Post by N.C. Wyeth » 15 Nov 2017 03:08

Geoff Walden wrote:Not the Party Rally Grounds, but Nuernberg news. Couple of photo essays in the local online paper, showing the former SS Kaserne near the Rally Grounds, and a "last look" at the Third Reich period main post office that is scheduled for demolition (the 1930s part of the building, anyway).

This doesn't say anything about it, but I always heard that there is a large mosaic or inlaid swastika in the floor of the entry foyer or the main room of the SS Kaserne, which the US Army left there but covered it over with blue carpeting when this was Merrell Barracks.

http://www.nordbayern.de/region/nuernbe ... 4#ancTitle

http://www.nordbayern.de/region/nuernbe ... -1.6859765
Well . . . the people in the photos sure make the place look inviting, don't they? Looking back on it . . . when you were driving Amy and I around the block that day . . . and if you had told me about that mosaic . . . I think I might of had you drop me off . . . knocked on the door - and asked to see the thing! :lol: :thumbsup:
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Re: Nuremberg Party Rally Grounds

Post by reichpapers » 06 Apr 2018 23:34

While we are on the subject of Zepplinfeld. Next to the parade field is the location of one of the Nürnburg Kleingärtner allotment locations. This location, was designated Bezirk XII and called Zepplinfeld. I circled the area in red from Geoff's map. I'm also adding a pic of my flag from the location.
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Re: Nuremberg Party Rally Grounds

Post by Geoff Walden » 07 Jun 2018 01:54

This is what the Zeppelinfeld looks like during the annual Rock im Park concert (this past weekend). Fortunately, they do not allow the concert-goers to access the Tribüne or the original seating areas. They do have a couple of the original seating area staircases open, so people can get to the couple of working toilets in the flag towers. I have no idea if a casual tourist can access the Tribüne during the concert period - I've never tried to go there then.
For the road race in July, they do, unfortunately, use the Tribüne for spectators. This, of course, leads to further damage to this fragile structure.

http://www.nordbayern.de/region/nuernbe ... 1#ancTitle
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You can see the Zeppelintribüne in the background of these photos.
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photos - 02.06.2018 (c) Roland Fengler
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Re: Nuremberg Party Rally Grounds

Post by Br. James » 07 Jun 2018 17:01

My only visit was in May of 1999 and, as I recall it, the Hitler Youth Stadium was still in use for concerts; in fact, I believe the Rolling Stones were advertised to be there in the near future that year. I didn't get over to the HJ Stadium; my interests were much more focused upon and satisfied by the Zeppelinwiese and the other main rally buildings.

Many thanks for this update, Geoff!

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Re: Nuremberg Party Rally Grounds

Post by Geoff Walden » 01 Jul 2018 17:48

Zeppelin Tribune: The federal government participates with 42.55 million euros

http://www.nordbayern.de/region/nuernbe ... -1.7758481
(translation from Google, with some corrections by me)

Nuremberg politicians are happy about the high subsidy

NÜRNBERG - In order to preserve the Zeppelin tribune and Zeppelin field as a place of learning and experiencing the history of the Nuremberg rallies in Nuremberg, the Federal Government will provide 42.55 million euros for the refurbishment of the site. However, the city and the state government still have to dig deep into their pockets.

The concept of the city plans to present the Zeppelin tribune and the Zeppelin field as a place of learning and experience and not to let any mystification of the buildings on the Zeppelin field arise.

This was announced by the Nuremberg SPD members Gabriela Heinrich and Martin Burkert. "We are happy that our joint efforts have borne fruit with the city, and it was not self-evident that the Federal Government is committed to such an extent." The amount shows the great importance as a place of remembrance that the Zeppelinfeld has for the whole country. " said Burkert and Heinrich.

The Nuremberg politicians had last year invited SPD "chief housekeeper" Johannes Kahrs to Nuremberg to promote support for the project. The proposed concept of the city has also completely convinced the householders in the government, both emphasize.

The federal government will, according to the two SPD members of the Bundestag, take over half of the city's estimated total cost of 85.1 million euros. The other half must be provided by the city and the state government. The latter had already pledged a "substantial amount" if the federal government also participated.

The municipal construction department has tried several rehabilitation options through a test phase. Debris from the blasting of parts of the grandstand was stored in the interiors and has added to the fabric over the decades enormously. Water had also entered the former Nazi building. Frost had partially broken up the ceiling of the grandstand.

The concept of the city plans to present the Zeppelin tribune and the Zeppelin field as a place of learning and experience and not to let any mystification of the buildings on the Zeppelin field arise. The Zeppelin field, which has been closed to the public, as well as selected points on the ramparts should be accessible through the extensive refurbishment.

[Geoff's comment - If they will open up the interior of the Tribüne and the flag towers on a regular basis once the rehabilitation is finished, it will go a long way toward preventing any "mystification" of this site. If they get all the funding, the repair/stabilization effort will certainly take several years.]
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Post by botofogo59 » 05 Aug 2018 17:02

In photos and film stills from 1934 there is a house that appears behind and to the right of the three large banners in the Tribune area. I have tried to Google Earth that area but do not see the house. Does anyone else see this house? Did the residents attend the rallies? Did they support the rally at all!? My mind wanders about this. I know this is an obscure icon but am curious if anyone else notices that house.

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Re: Nuremberg Party Rally Grounds

Post by GregSingh » 05 Aug 2018 23:49

There was a whole suburb behind.
But it seems that distinctive house on Parsifalstraße (called Tiergartenstraße back then) did not survive...
Google Street View still works there, but photos are from 2008.

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Re: Nuremberg Party Rally Grounds

Post by Little John » 27 Feb 2019 18:49

I see some some Neo Nazis have staged a torchlit rally at or near the Zeppelin tribune. I hope this doesn't lead the city authorities to close it off or demolish it. :x

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/worl ... 99301.html

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