Have you been to Goebbels Bogensee Villa?

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Re: Have you been to Goebbels Bogensee Villa?

Post by Heinrich George » 03 Aug 2013 21:22

The German Wiki page about Lanke has some information on the villa.

http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lanke

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Re: Have you been to Goebbels Bogensee Villa?

Post by rosstcorbett » 12 Apr 2014 11:35

jonowitz0 wrote:Hi,

I have been there 3 or 4 times. The house is in great condition. Here is a link to some of my pictures from my visits.

http://www.thirdreichlocations.com/BOGE ... bbels.html
Just been having a look around your website Jon, well done on producing a terrific site.

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GOEBBELS HOUSE & BUNKER VIDEO → https://youtu.be/1il8IkoSuuk

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Re: Have you been to Goebbels Bogensee Villa?

Post by rosstcorbett » 13 Apr 2014 11:20

Hi everybody.

I have just seen this very interesting article with pictures published a few weeks back about the sale of Goebbels Villa.

It looks in great condition on the inside.

Ross

Full Article: http://www.vocativ.com/world/germany-wo ... home-sale/
GOEBBELS HOUSE & BUNKER VIDEO → https://youtu.be/1il8IkoSuuk

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Re: Have you been to Goebbels Bogensee Villa?

Post by Ken S. » 27 Jun 2018 07:16

https://youtu.be/oGIWugzkUEc
sobel wrote:That's the villa I was thinking of and recognise certain features. I remember a documentary on the BBC a few years back where they visited this particular site, the large windows where someone is peering through were mechanical and descended into an underground void, the commentator tried them and they still worked! maybe this a different villa to that originally posted

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Re: Have you been to Goebbels Bogensee Villa?

Post by Br. James » 27 Jun 2018 21:01

From the exterior, this house seems to reflect influence from Carinhall, though the interior appears to be 'modern,' even to present standards. This is not surprising as I would assume that Goebbels would not have felt comfortable in period furniture and appointments. I think he saw himself as 'a man of today and tomorrow, not of yesterday.'

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Re: Have you been to Goebbels Bogensee Villa?

Post by Biber » 28 Jun 2018 14:10

Looks like it would make one hell of a conference center. Would be great to see it developed.

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Post by Geoff Walden » 28 Jun 2018 14:48

Excellent idea, Biber!
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Perhaps the same thing could be done as with Himmler's house on the Tegernsee - a conference center, just as you suggested.
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Post by Br. James » 28 Jun 2018 15:03

I agree: it sounds like a good idea to develop this property into a conference center. The one possible drawback is that the Goebbels Haus property is apparently owned by the same owner as the school/institution next door and the owner wants to sell the whole parcel as one piece. This may well be the reason why Goebbels Haus has never sold as yet.

The interior of the house appears to be well-cared-for and I wonder if it has ever been renovated since 1945?

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Re: Have you been to Goebbels Bogensee Villa?

Post by DavidFrankenberg » 28 Jun 2018 19:19

Since ther city of Berlin gave it to Goebbels, it is logic that the city of Berlin took it back in 1945.
The house is very well preserved. The question is why the city of Berlin does nothing with it ? It could be converted into a museum about WWII and Goebbels...
I just hope they wd not destroy it.

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Post by Mori » 29 Jun 2018 07:42

Geoff Walden wrote:Excellent idea, Biber!
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Perhaps the same thing could be done as with Himmler's house on the Tegernsee - a conference center, just as you suggested.
Who would ever want to go or to host a conference in place bearing such memories...?

I remember one piece of real estate in Berlin, in Charlottenburg near the Lietzensee, which was turned from an official building into an apartment house. They had a few problems selling the apartment when the word came this used to be where the nazis performed capital punishment...

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Re: Have you been to Goebbels Bogensee Villa?

Post by Mori » 29 Jun 2018 07:43

DavidFrankenberg wrote:Since ther city of Berlin gave it to Goebbels
"gave" it...?

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Post by Max » 29 Jun 2018 14:02

Mori wrote:
DavidFrankenberg wrote:Since ther city of Berlin gave it to Goebbels
"gave" it...?
It seems to be generally accepted that the villa was a gift to Joseph Goebbels from the city of Berlin back in 1936 for his 39th birthday.
http://www.tracesofevil.com/2001/07/mor ... erlin.html
and numerous other references
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Re: Have you been to Goebbels Bogensee Villa?

Post by Br. James » 29 Jun 2018 18:52

From the contemporary videos of this property we see online, it appears to be quite "out of the way," if not rural, and that may be why it remains abandoned today. During the TR era there were apparently a number of other high-profile Nazis who owned or held properties in this area and that may be what aided in attracting Goebbels and others out there. But today, as they say in the real estate business, it's "Location, Location, Location!"

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Re: Have you been to Goebbels Bogensee Villa?

Post by DavidFrankenberg » 30 Jun 2018 20:30

Mori wrote:
DavidFrankenberg wrote:Since ther city of Berlin gave it to Goebbels
"gave" it...?
Goebbels was appointed the mission to conquer Berlin during the nazi rise to power.
He succeeded. Berlin was Goebbels' city.
He was a megalomaniac and a sex-mad man. He was married but liked to have many properties so he could have his affairs with cinema celebrities out of his home.
It is very possible that Goebbels gave this house to himself somehow. It happened in 1936 for his 39th birthday.
It is a big & nice house : 1400 m² inside on a 500 ha property, 40 km away from Berlin, in the woods, near a lake.

The city of Berlin refused to sell till now because they fear neonazis wd buy it.

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