Hotel zum Türken

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Re: Hotel zum Türken

Post by sursur » 03 Oct 2013 18:05

In the spring of 2013, I wanted to stay there, but did not answer me for the reservation. Finally, I lived in Berchtesgaden.


PS: I'm sorry but only through English translator

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Re: Hotel zum Türken

Post by Geoff Walden » 03 Oct 2013 18:26

Hi Ecam,

The photos are still on the wall there ... all of them. :milwink:

Over the years many people encouraged Frau Scharfenberg to write her memoirs, but her reaction was always the same. She did write the short history of the Türken, but it is very dry compared to the stories she used to tell.

Ingrid Scharfenberg was not born at the Türken - the Schuster family had already lost the Türken to Bormann and had moved away, before she was born. She was actually born in Salzburg and so was an Austrian citizen. The family lived at Chiemsee during the war. She and her mother and sister moved into the Türken ruins in the summer of 1945, and experienced all the ups and downs of trying to restore the building, being evicted and having the place plundered again, then being allowed to move back in and having to rebuild from scratch (until the building was habitable again, they lived in one of the houses at Hintereck, across from the coal bunker, with other refugees).

Since she was just a child with no reason to be there, and considering the local security, I don't think she ever visited the Obersalzberg during the Third Reich period. I've never read or heard that any of the family were there, after 1933 (she never told me of any such visits, anyway). As I understand it, she did see Hitler once (and perhaps shook his hand) when he visited her school in the Chiemsee area (again, she was just a child).

All those other people in those photos, she met when they visited the Türken after the war (Günsche, Baur, Junge and the other secretaries, etc.).

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Re: Hotel zum Türken

Post by *NL* » 03 Oct 2013 23:03

This has become a nice and informative thread :-)
Pofoka, thanks for the photo's !

Geoff, although the trees where not autenthic, i hate to see the current sight, what a loss, i am in total agreement with
Annelie's first comment.

Thanks everyone for your input !

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Re: Hotel zum Türken

Post by pofoka » 09 Oct 2013 19:54

A little nostalgia one more time.
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Re: Hotel zum Türken

Post by pofoka » 09 Oct 2013 20:00

One Picture tell more than a thousand words ...
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Re: Hotel zum Türken

Post by pofoka » 09 Oct 2013 20:25

The sight of the morning from my favourite room's window (Morning variations)
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Re: Hotel zum Türken

Post by Annelie » 09 Oct 2013 21:05

Thankyou for sharing, they are beautiful and allows us to see what we have been missing.

Hopefully the Türken will remain open to public for many years especially for those who
were friends and spent time there.

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Re: Hotel zum Türken

Post by *NL* » 09 Oct 2013 23:37

A very nice photo update Pofoka, much apriciated.

Hans.

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Re: Hotel zum Türken

Post by Geoff Walden » 10 Oct 2013 08:12

Thanks for the wonderful photo posts, pofoka! Ah, Room 23 :thumbsup: (I think that's Nr. 23 ... maybe it's Nr. 24.) You saw the carvings on the roof beams (Balken) above the balcony, right? Ingrid Scharfenberg's grandfather Karl Schuster carved those in 1911, and they still survive.

Those needlepoint pictures that are in the stairwells and guest rooms ... Frau S. told me there are 95 of them, and she did them all when she was a teenager during the early 50s, when the Türken was being rebuilt and reopened for guests.

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Re: Hotel zum Türken

Post by pofoka » 10 Oct 2013 20:49

Thank you very much Annelie, Hans and Geoff!

Yes Geoff, it's a 23 room! My favourite! :thumbsup:

And the carvings on the roof beams here:
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Re: Hotel zum Türken

Post by Gianni Lepri » 10 Nov 2013 18:06

Annelie wrote:Any update on what is happening to

Hotel zum Türken ?

I stayed at Zum Turken Oct. 5-9. It was not the first time and will not be the last.
It was late into the season, and Frau Monika had time to talk about her plans, the future, and the hotel.
She is no less fighter than her mother was, and quite determined to keep the Turken in operation.
Of course, she made and is making changes, all for the better in my judgment, and more are to come.
I will keep all posted if anything new comes around.

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Re: Hotel zum Türken

Post by Annelie » 10 Nov 2013 18:13

I stayed at Zum Turken Oct. 5-9. It was not the first time and will not be the last.
It was late into the season, and Frau Monika had time to talk about her plans, the future, and the hotel.
She is no less fighter than her mother was, and quite determined to keep the Turken in operation.
Of course, she made and is making changes, all for the better in my judgment, and more are to come.
I will keep all posted if anything new comes around.
Thank you Gianni, we all appreciate the updates and information.

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Re: Hotel zum Türken

Post by pofoka » 10 Nov 2013 19:26

Thank you Gianni for the new informations. :thumbsup:

Best greetings

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Re: Hotel zum Türken

Post by pofoka » 17 Feb 2014 21:37

In memoriam Ingrid Helene Partner Scharfenberg
Oct. 4, 1933 - Feb. 17, 2013

Our dear Frau Scharfenberg...
Ruhe in Frieden.
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Re: Hotel zum Türken

Post by Annelie » 17 Feb 2014 21:43

thankyou for posting.

Frau Scharfenberg didn't seem very old, or should I say she wasn't an age where one expects
that it may happen, so it was a shock to hear of her passing.

Its an beautiful area regardless of the history of the area.
I can imagine a lot of people are missing her.

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