Berlin Panzer Panther locations

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Berlin Panzer Panther locations

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Post by Bendlerblock » 20 Jan 2019, 16:36

Here are some photographs of some Panzer hulls defending the streets of Berlin, would anyone on here know their locations, some are the same tank but shot at different angles

I would like to be able to take a modern view if possible
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Re: Berlin Panzer Panther locations

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Post by shamirnewell » 20 Jan 2019, 17:18

I think there locations are discussed in this thread. Seems like I read them somewhere in this topic.
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Re: Berlin Panzer Panther locations

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Post by GregSingh » 21 Jan 2019, 06:10

I would like to be able to take a modern view if possible
Please note that Google Street View in Berlin is more than 10 years old...

Berlin Panther1 photo was taken on Sophie-Charlotte-Platz.

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Post by Bendlerblock » 23 Jan 2019, 19:45

Thank you Greg. that is one located, three to go!

A useful shot from Google, I think that one of the views has an underground/ S Bahn staircase in the background?

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Post by GregSingh » 24 Jan 2019, 02:50

has an underground/ S Bahn staircase in the background?
Yes, photo Berlin Panther2 (2) has both: U-Bahn sign and S-Bahn Ring viaduct in the background.
This location had been already suggested as corner of Frankfurter Allee and Möllendorffstraße.

There was another photo taken in the same spot showing damaged buildings along alleged Frankfurter Allee.
Source: https://militaryberlin.wordpress.com

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I would say there is high probability of this being a correct location. Another photo from 1930.
Source: http://www.u-bahn-archiv.de

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And a view from Google.

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Post by Bendlerblock » 25 Jan 2019, 09:58

Thank you so much Greg, a nice piece of detective work

So I not the only one scouring the internet for photos,by the way I stood on the same spot last year but never realised!

I can see the Panzerturm had a great view down Frankfurter Allee

In that case one more to identify (the covered shell casing turret), I think the first picture shows the POWs walking towards the same camouflaged Panther where the Russian Officer is standing in your shared view

Another location now added to my list

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Post by Bendlerblock » 25 Jan 2019, 10:02

Comparisons thanks to Google
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Post by GregSingh » 25 Jan 2019, 11:57

Unfortunately I don't have a location for Berlin Panther2 (1) photo.
But there are several clues. :D

To start with, you can buy a high resolution copy of this photo from Alamy, photo number B9R1G9.
Perhaps that would help with reading a road sign and a shop name.

Looks like Tempelhof and Müncheberg, but I can't see kilometres.

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Looks like Netz Geräte... or Metz...

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There is another photo taken in the same location, in spite of better resolution, I can't work out business name.

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Post by Hohlladung » 01 Mar 2021, 14:58

Hi Greg,

The word in clue2 is Metzgerei.

So you have to search for a butcher's shop. The other word unable to read. Could be Kasse or Kaese or anything else.
Hope this will help a little bit.

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"Ihr verfluchten Racker, wollt ihr denn ewig leben?" Friedrich, II. in der Schlacht von Kolin am 18.Juni 1757 zu seinen zurückgehenden Grenadieren.

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Post by Mannheim » 01 Mar 2021, 22:39

Bendlerblock may find this Facebook site useful: https://www.facebook.com/groups/2246740 ... 1007971543
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Post by GregSingh » 02 Mar 2021, 02:57

I think 'Metzgerei' does it.
There was only one business with that name registered in Berlin at that time: Metzgerei Hellmuth W. Gehrandt & Co. K-G, N20 Badstrasse 24.
So location for Berlin Panther2 (1) photo is intersection of Badstrasse and Prinzenallee.
Buildings there look quite different now at the intersection, but those closer to Stettiner Str. look exactly the same as on 1945 photo.

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