Landhaus Göring architectural plans

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Landhaus Göring architectural plans

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Post by CPB » 11 Nov 2020, 17:33

Does anyone here have a copy of the blueprints for Göring's Obersalzberg residence?

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Post by Hans1906 » 11 Nov 2020, 19:32

Good evening Chris,

How much would you offer...? (Sorry, just a joke) 8-)

A ladyfriend of my grandmother was one of the personal secretaries to Göring at the RLM in Berlin, she was also a personal guest at the
1935 wedding of Göring with Emmy Sonnemann.

I got a lot of personal papers and other stuff from Frau H. already long ago, she passed away in her mid 90s in the year 2011.(1916 - 2011)
The old lady left all her documents to me with my promise never to publish any of them, never.

Carinhall was then her second home, on many weekends and vacations.
Plans of the Carinhall residence were unfortunately not included, which is a great pity, but you can't have everything... :wink:


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Post by CPB » 11 Nov 2020, 19:35

Thank you, Hans – I have sent you an email.

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Post by Biber » 11 Nov 2020, 19:40

Carinhall and HG's Obersalzburg residence are two entirely different places.

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Post by Hans1906 » 11 Nov 2020, 19:50

Chris, makes no sense anymore...

Unfortunately, many years ago, I sold the original menu of the former wedding dinner, and a very large seating plan of the former wedding guests to a foreign collector, for sure my mistake.

A very stupid mistake, but how do you say: "I needed the money!" :oops:


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Post by CPB » 11 Nov 2020, 19:56

Hans1906 wrote:
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Chris, makes no sense anymore...

Unfortunately, many years ago, I sold the original menu of the former wedding dinner, and a very large seating plan of the former wedding guests to a foreign collector, for sure my mistake.

A very stupid mistake, but how do you say: "I needed the money!" :oops:


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Ahh, very nice. Too bad, but we've all made that mistake over the years...

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Post by Hans1906 » 11 Nov 2020, 20:01

"Carinhall and HG's Obersalzburg residence are two entirely different places."

Sorry, Herr Biber, but I am aware about this, on the other side, everything is very close related, not..?


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Post by Hans1906 » 11 Nov 2020, 21:04

Ahh, very nice. Too bad, but we've all made that mistake over the years...

Chris, YES!!!

The most terrible mistake, not to make a copy of the two-sided menu, bound in the prussian colors for the wedding at that time, and the seating plan was simply too big, nobody could copy it...

And unfortunately, there was no digital camera at that time. :(
Maybe I will find the address of the former buyer on an old hard disk, we will see...


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Re: Landhaus Göring architectural plans

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Post by CraigM » 11 Nov 2020, 21:05

Hello Hans1906.

You didn't actually say whether you do or don't have the plans to Göring's OSB residence. Do you?
Hans1906 wrote:
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The old lady left all her documents to me with my promise never to publish any of them, never.
I do understand that the wishes of the donor of any archival material need to be respected but I would hope that now, with the passage of so much time, many decades since these documents were produced, and with every single person involved now dead, that you might make a judgement that the value of history's records outweigh those wishes. You might consider too that if she were still here her wishes might have changed given the enormous passage of time. It's possible that some of those documents might be a hundred years old now, or more. Surely keeping them sitting hidden away in a dusty attic is a tragic loss to history?

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Post by Hans1906 » 11 Nov 2020, 21:31

Craig,

sorry, I could pass on the lady's obituary from 2011, but I won't do that, because this ad would be very much to recapitulate.

This would certainly not please the family of the deceased lady, and would also get me into trouble myself.

It is not without reason that personal data protection is a very sensitive topic here in Germany, especially in any reference to data from the years before 1945.
I can remember a little, but it will never be more.
Even at an advanced age, the lady was an extremely convinced national socialist, and also a very lovable old lady, according to my personal memory.

Not seldom here in Germany before, but all this is long ago, there are hardly any survivors from the time before 1945.


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P.S. One does not, never, break a promise given into one's hand, is a matter of one's own decency.

P.S.S. Nothing is "hidden away in a dusty attic is a tragic loss to history", this is not the fact, but not online, for many reasons.
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