Germans are an Aryan master race under the Third Reich. When did it begin?

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Germans are an Aryan master race under the Third Reich. When did it begin?

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Post by George L Gregory » 09 Apr 2021, 16:44

We are told that the Nazis viewed the Germans as being an Aryan master race. When did all of this happen?

Did Adolf Hitler ever actually call the Germans a master race? I don't recall reading the term in Mein Kampf or the book The Third Reich Sourcebook.

I can find two examples of two Nazis using the term 'master race' (Herrenvolk).

Joseph Goebbels during a speech in 1936 said:
Heute steckt in jung und alt, in hoch und niedrig, in arm und reich der besessene Wille, die deutsche Nation wieder zu einem Weltvolk emporzuführen. Jedermann bei uns ist davon überzeugt: Wir müssen an der Beherrschung der Welt teilnehmen. Wir müssen deshalb ein Herrenvolk werden, und deshalb müssen wir unser Volk zum Herrenvolk erziehen. Das muß schon beim kleinsten Pimpf anfangen, der schon in dieser Herrenmoral erzogen werden muß.

Today arises in young and old, high and low, poor and rich, the will that the German nation must again be a world people. All of us are convinced of it: we must participate in the ruling of the world. We must become a master race, and therefore we must educate our people to be a master race. This must begin with the smallest child, who must be educated in this master-ethic.
Erich Koch in 1943 said:
Wir sind ein Herrenvolk, das bedenken muß, daß der geringste deutsche Arbeiter rassisch und biologisch tausendmal wertvoller ist als die hiesige Bevölkerung.

We are a master race, which must remember that the lowliest German worker is racially and biologically a thousand times more valuable than the population here.
What about Adolf Hitler, Heinrich Himmler, Reinhard Heydrich, etc, did any of them use the term?

Did Nazi propaganda ever tell Germans that they were a master race? The German Propaganda Archive doesn't show any results for 'master race'.

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Post by Cantankerous » 10 Apr 2021, 16:57

This link should help you figure out if Hitler's henchmen ever used the term "master race" when referring to pure Germanic people:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Master_race


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Post by Hans1906 » 10 Apr 2021, 18:54

The german term "Herrenrasse" is mostly concentrated on the former Elite Schools, the NPEAs, the Adolf-Hitler Schulen,
and other elite schools of that time.

Herrenkinder - Das System der NS-Eliteschulen


95 percent of the indoctrination of that time is still unknown today, my mother's brother, born in 1933, never spoke about his years in the "Napola".
The NPEA "Spanheim" in Kärnten was his fate.

Nationalpolitische Erziehungsanstalt https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nationalp ... ngsanstalt
The boy was robbed of youth, compassion , so I remember the man, I'm sorry for the uncle, what can I say ...

He never talked about his years in the NPEA, even as an adult person, he always made a secret about those years....


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Post by George L Gregory » 10 Apr 2021, 21:10

Cantankerous wrote:
10 Apr 2021, 16:57
This link should help you figure out if Hitler's henchmen ever used the term "master race" when referring to pure Germanic people:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Master_race
What else is on that page that is not what I have already posted?

I don’t think Hitler ever described the Germans as a “master race”.

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Post by George L Gregory » 10 Apr 2021, 21:11

Hans1906 wrote:
10 Apr 2021, 18:54
The german term "Herrenrasse" is mostly concentrated on the former Elite Schools, the NPEAs, the Adolf-Hitler Schulen,
and other elite schools of that time.

Herrenkinder - Das System der NS-Eliteschulen


95 percent of the indoctrination of that time is still unknown today, my mother's brother, born in 1933, never spoke about his years in the "Napola".
The NPEA "Spanheim" in Kärnten was his fate.

Nationalpolitische Erziehungsanstalt https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nationalp ... ngsanstalt
The boy was robbed of youth, compassion , so I remember the man, I'm sorry for the uncle, what can I say ...

He never talked about his years in the NPEA, even as an adult person, he always made a secret about those years....


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Hi Hans,

Were the members of the Hitler Youth ever told that they were a master race?

If you could quote a Nazi stating such a thing that would be great.

Thanks.

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Post by Hans1906 » 10 Apr 2021, 21:54

George, you should read more about this topic...

It was not just drilled into the boys, they were the future master race, the elite of the future empire.
Highly educated, very athletic, tall and blond, with blue eyes, there were no little weaklings in these schools, failures were mercilessly sorted out.

Tests of courage were the order of the day, as late as 1945 the boys were equipped with light handguns to fight Yugoslav partisans, the boys patrolled the forests in Carinthia without ever having fired a single shot before.
Captured by partisans, the boys were stripped and sent away naked.

"Go to your mothers, you children in uniforms!"
That's what my uncle remembered after the disarmament, the boy hid for over a year afterwards with mountain farmers in Austria, he was afraid of being arrested and killed as an NPEA student.

A bad time, the uncle never talked about those years, only with his mother, my grandmother, who told me all this in later years.
War is shit, for children and young people definitely hell on earth.

Unfortunately, that's all I remember.

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Post by George L Gregory » 12 Apr 2021, 22:28

Hans1906 wrote:
10 Apr 2021, 21:54
George, you should read more about this topic...

It was not just drilled into the boys, they were the future master race, the elite of the future empire.
Highly educated, very athletic, tall and blond, with blue eyes, there were no little weaklings in these schools, failures were mercilessly sorted out.

Tests of courage were the order of the day, as late as 1945 the boys were equipped with light handguns to fight Yugoslav partisans, the boys patrolled the forests in Carinthia without ever having fired a single shot before.
Captured by partisans, the boys were stripped and sent away naked.

"Go to your mothers, you children in uniforms!"
That's what my uncle remembered after the disarmament, the boy hid for over a year afterwards with mountain farmers in Austria, he was afraid of being arrested and killed as an NPEA student.

A bad time, the uncle never talked about those years, only with his mother, my grandmother, who told me all this in later years.
War is shit, for children and young people definitely hell on earth.

Unfortunately, that's all I remember.

Hans1906
Hans,

I have read in depth about this topic. Apart from the occasional mention of the term by a couple of Nazis, I don't see any evidence that it was widely used in Nazi propaganda.

On the contrary, Germans were told to respect that racial differences exist (according to Nazi ideology) but to not speak about superior or inferior races.

Below are a far examples:
National Socialist thought . . . grants full equity to every other Volk and, moreover never speaks of superior or inferior, but rather only of alien racial admixture.
We appreciate the fact that those of another race are different from us. This scientific truth is the basis, the justification and, at the same time, the obligation of every racial policy without which a restoration of Europe in our day is no longer practicable. Whether that other race is "better" or "worse" is not possible for us to judge. For this would demand that we transcend our own racial limitations for the duration of the verdict and take on a superhuman, even divine, attitude from which alone an "impersonal" verdict could be formed on the value or lack of such of the many living forms of inexhaustible Nature. But we of all people are too conscious of the inseparable ties of the blood and our own race to attempt to aspire to such an ultra-racial standpoint, even in the abstract.
The others may not be better or worse, but they are different than we are, and because they are different than we are, there is a kind of wall between us that is part of the laws of life. That is the core of National Socialism’s racial thinking. Our goal is not to insult others, to say: “What a great guy I am!” Rather, we hold to the humble recognition that each healthy piece of life has its corner of the world, and its special tasks. This is just as true of humans as it is of plants and animals in all their multiplicity. We know that one type is no more valuable than another. But we also know that each variety of life has a right to existence only as long as it keeps itself pure and strong. Only when a tree bears the proper fruit does it have a right to live. Otherwise it will be cut down and destroyed. We do not know why things are the way they are, and it would be foolish to ask the reason. That is how things are. Our task is to humbly accept the laws that govern our human existence, and to accept the fact that we are born Germans in Germany, not as Chinese or Eskimos. That is not because of our virtues, nor it is our fault, nor was it our will. It was fate that came from above. We have no choice but to accept this fate and to develop the abilities that fate has given us according to necessity and law.
The fundamental reason for excluding foreign-raced groups from a people’s body is not discrimination or contempt, but rather the realization of otherness. Only through such thinking will the peoples again become healthy and able to respect each other.
So much for preaching about a superior Aryan German master race... :?

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