Were Indians, Pakistanis and Bangladeshis considered to be Aryans?

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Re: Were Indians, Pakistanis and Bangladeshis considered to be Aryans?

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Post by George L Gregory » 19 Sep 2021, 21:37

Sid Guttridge wrote:
08 Sep 2021, 10:52
Hi GLG,

You post, "Actually, the Nazis pursued a policy based on race against the Gypsies living in Germany. The Nuremberg Laws were extended to include the Gypsies as non-Aryans. In 1936 a biology department began to look into the racial origins of the Gypsies and concluded that the vast majority of Gypsies were not Aryans. In 1937, the Nazis began racial experiments on the Gypsies living in Germany."

Yes, but this was a political decision and doesn't make them non-Aryan. If other Northern Indians speaking Aryan languages were considered Aryan, this would include, not exclude, the Gypsies.

The underlying question here is: Were other Northern Indians speaking Aryan languages considered Aryan in Nazi ideological terms?

Cheers,

Sid
No, Himmler specifically spoke about race when it came to the Gypsies living in Germany. The Nazis concluded that the Gypsies were originally Aryans but had mixed with non-Aryans over the centuries and only a small percentage of Gypsies were still really Aryans.

But the Nazis’ adoption of “Aryan” couldn’t have always equated with Indo-Europeans because Finns were considered to be Aryans, even though Finnish isn’t an Indo-European language. OTH, Turks are racially mixed and some are not ‘white’ yet Turks were considered Aryans too.

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Re: Were Indians, Pakistanis and Bangladeshis considered to be Aryans?

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Post by wm » 19 Sep 2021, 23:33

It wasn't the Nazis but Himmler himself who driven by the "romance of the Gypsies" tried to find Aryans among them.


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Re: Were Indians, Pakistanis and Bangladeshis considered to be Aryans?

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Post by George L Gregory » 20 Sep 2021, 18:55

It was the Nazis themselves too.

The Aryan Certificate stated:
Arischer Abstammung ist demnach derjenige Mensch, der frei von einem, vom deutschen Volke aus gesehen, fremdrassigen Blutseinschlage ist. Als fremd gilt hier vor allem das Blut der auch im europäischen Siedlungsraume lebenden Juden und Zigeuner, das der asiatischen und afrikanischen Rassen und der Ureinwohner Australiens und Amerikas (Indianer), während z.B. ein Engländer oder Schwede, ein Franzose oder Tscheche, ein Pole oder Italiener, wenn er selbst frei von solchen, auch ihm fremden Blutseinschlägen ist, als verwandt, also als arisch gelten muß, mag er nun in seiner Heimat oder in Ostasien oder in Amerika wohnen oder mag er Bürger der U.S.A. oder eines südamerikanischen Freistaates sein.

Aryan is thus the one man who looked free from, the German people, strange racial impact is blood. Deemed to be a stranger here, especially the blood of the living room and in the European settlement of Jews and Gypsies, the Asian and African breeds, and the aborigines of Australia and America (Indians), while, for example, a Swede or an Englishman, a Frenchman or Czech, a Pole or Italian, if he is free of such, even that is foreign blood strikes, when used, must therefore be considered severally liable, he may now live in his home, in East Asia or in America or he likes a U.S. citizen or a South American Free State be.
The Nuremberg Laws were extended to include “Gypsies, Negroes, and their bastards”.

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