Adolf Hitler’s speech on 30 January 1939 and Lebensraum
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There was nothing explosive with the expulsion of 20000 Polish Jews living in Germany ,to Poland ,given the hostility of the German population to the Ostjuden .And, it had nothing to do with Hitler's decision to attack Poland .
In 1923 the Bavarian government ordered the expulsion of Ostjuden .
Source :Die Ausweisung von Ostjuden aus Bayern in 1923 .
In 1923 the Bavarian government ordered the expulsion of Ostjuden .
Source :Die Ausweisung von Ostjuden aus Bayern in 1923 .
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Re: Adolf Hitler’s speech on 30 January 1939 and Lebensraum
Another posting with no quotes.
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You should familiarise yourself with how this forum works with regard to quotes.NickA wrote: ↑18 Feb 2022 21:11It doesn't need one - show me people who theorised about the hatred of Poles for Germans or vice-versa (after 1919 - or before if you can find any such reference when there was no Poland).George L Gregory wrote: ↑15 Feb 2022 10:08I can almost guarantee that you will not provide a reference to the G.H. quote.
app.php/rules#back-up-your-claimsWhen you include a quote, cite the source. Include enough information to allow other members to find the source themselves. As a minimum, include the author, title/issue, and page number (for monographs and serials) or a link to the specific article (for websites).
So don’t try and reverse the burden of proof (fallacy) and provide a citation for the quote you quoted.
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I presume this is something to do with what I've posted - but I'm not prepared to have my time wasted by correspondents who fail to message properly and don't quote and expect me to search to find out what its in reference to.ljadw wrote: ↑18 Feb 2022 21:53There was nothing explosive with the expulsion of 20000 Polish Jews living in Germany ,to Poland ,given the hostility of the German population to the Ostjuden ... In 1923 the Bavarian government ordered the expulsion of Ostjuden . Source :Die Ausweisung von Ostjuden aus Bayern in 1923 ...And, it had nothing to do with Hitler's decision to attack Poland .
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The Ostjuden were mostly kapota Jews engaging in aggressive hawking and similar trades, not just mere Polish Jews. And they were actually disliked both by Germans and Jews.
In Poland people who spent (basically illegally) more than five years abroad could have been denaturalized, and it wasn't just about Jews.
In 1938 the Nazis deported indiscriminately about 17000 Polish Jews - disregarding their denaturalization status.
In response, the Polish government put the Jews into a camp at the border (to put pressure on the Germans) and forced the Nazis to return their property and wealth (confiscated earlier) threatening mass expulsion of Polish Germans in retaliation.
In Poland people who spent (basically illegally) more than five years abroad could have been denaturalized, and it wasn't just about Jews.
In 1938 the Nazis deported indiscriminately about 17000 Polish Jews - disregarding their denaturalization status.
In response, the Polish government put the Jews into a camp at the border (to put pressure on the Germans) and forced the Nazis to return their property and wealth (confiscated earlier) threatening mass expulsion of Polish Germans in retaliation.
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'Polish Jews "? You mean of course Jewish Poles ?wm wrote: ↑03 Apr 2022 15:33The Ostjuden were mostly kapota Jews engaging in aggressive hawking and similar trades, not just mere Polish Jews. And they were actually disliked both by Germans and Jews.
In Poland people who spent (basically illegally) more than five years abroad could have been denaturalized, and it wasn't just about Jews.
In 1938 the Nazis deported indiscriminately about 17000 Polish Jews - disregarding their denaturalization status.
In response, the Polish government put the Jews into a camp at the border (to put pressure on the Germans) and forced the Nazis to return their property and wealth (confiscated earlier) threatening mass expulsion of Polish Germans in retaliation.
And why would it be illegal for a Polish citizen to spend more than five years abroad ?
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The passport was valid for five years, so people who stayed longer broke the law. But generally, the idea was to weed out people who weren't Poles by any stretch of the imagination, didn't speak Polish, and spent their entire life in Germany (because admittedly grass was greener there.)
I've never seen any rational explanation for what that was about. It could have been a bureaucratic idea (there was a person in the government like that) or more probably the ruling party was afraid of an influx of Jews before important elections (they were in an awkward alliance with Polish Jews.)
Generally, the directives to Polish diplomats were to forcibly and inflexibly defend the economic and property rights of Polish Jews in Nazi Germany.