Deutsche Nordatlantik Line (NORDA)

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Deutsche Nordatlantik Line (NORDA)

Post by ArmchairSamurai » 22 Jul 2022 04:51

Hello all,

I made a post about pre-WW1 cruise liners a little while ago in the AH section of the forum, and now I am making a post here to see if anyone can clear up something about German interwar cruise liners and Nazi nationalization of the industry. It's my impression that Hamburg-Amerikanische Packetfahrt-Aktien-Gesellschaft (HAPAG) and Norddeutscher Lloyd (NDL) were briefly (?) merged after the Great Depression (not unlike the real merger in the 70s, Hapag-Lloyd) and made by the Nazis to sell off many of their ships before being nationalized under state-control. The name of this state-controlled cruise line was Deutsche Nordatlantik Line (NORDA) and ships like the incomplete SS Vaterland were subsumed into its various projects. Problem is, I can only find any mention of this state-sponsored NORDA on this webpage: https://earlofcruise.blogspot.com/2017/ ... h.html?m=0

Does anybody have anything to corroborate this? Was NORDA more to do with the Kraft durch Freude cruise liners like Wilhelm Gustloff or Robert Lay? Was NORDA only a name, simply applied to cruise lines like HAPAG and NDL, where the ship-builders would continue business as usual, just under government supervision?

What do you all think?
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Re: Deutsche Nordatlantik Line (NORDA)

Post by GregSingh » 22 Jul 2022 05:53

This fragment from archive description basically confirms what you already wrote in your post:
Die Nordatlantikdienste von Lloyd und Hapag wurden in der Nordatlantik-Gemeinschaft Hapag-Lloyd zusammengefasst, 1934 wurde dann eine Hamburger und eine Bremer Nordatlantikdienst GmbH (Norda) gegründet.
https://www.archivportal-d.de/item/XKYB ... 3X6KTILLKL
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Re: Deutsche Nordatlantik Line (NORDA)

Post by ArmchairSamurai » 22 Jul 2022 05:55

GregSingh wrote:
22 Jul 2022 05:53
This fragment from archive description basically confirms what you already wrote in your post:
Die Nordatlantikdienste von Lloyd und Hapag wurden in der Nordatlantik-Gemeinschaft Hapag-Lloyd zusammengefasst, 1934 wurde dann eine Hamburger und eine Bremer Nordatlantikdienst GmbH (Norda) gegründet.
https://www.archivportal-d.de/item/XKYB ... 3X6KTILLKL
Aha! Thanks for that link Greg, that helps a lot!
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Re: Deutsche Nordatlantik Line (NORDA)

Post by GregSingh » 22 Jul 2022 06:10

More archive files about Bremen Norda:
https://www.deutsche-digitale-bibliothe ... ZV3TMUONFE
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