Berghof Obersalzberg

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Mannheim
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Re: Berghof Obersalzberg

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Post by Mannheim » 23 Aug 2011, 23:42

For what they're worth, I just found two more interior shots of the Guest House. The blue marks to be seen on the window come from the fact that these photographs have been stored in a shoebox for thirty years. I had written a description (in blue ink) on the back of each photo and over time the ink has worn onto some of the photos. This will also become apparent when I post my photos of the SS garage, training field and others.
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Evidence of ink staining. I have cleaned this photo up a bit using Paint.
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Interior, ground floor. From memory, this room is just inside the middle of the three arched entrances.
Kein Irrtum ist so groß, der nicht seinen Zuhörer hat.

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Re: Berghof Obersalzberg

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Post by Mannheim » 24 Aug 2011, 23:36

I may have misidentified these photos. I think I took them in 1989. If they are not the SS parade ground and garage, please correct me. In those days, before I discovered Geoff's wonderful site, or computers for that matter, I just photographed whatever looked interesting. You will notice the blue ink stains have reappeared.
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Parade ground.
Kein Irrtum ist so groß, der nicht seinen Zuhörer hat.


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Re: Berghof Obersalzberg

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Post by acslater » 25 Aug 2011, 06:20

Mannheim, these are just amazing pictures. I hope you can find all of them that you took from several years ago. Keep them coming--they are incredible!

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Re: Berghof Obersalzberg

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Post by Johnnyrocket » 25 Aug 2011, 16:11

In Germany with the U.S. Army in 1970... Mannheim was not the place to be. If you were in the Army stationed in Germany—you will know why. Anyway, these images are fantastic, thanks for the postings.

I too say ...keep them coming, bringing back memories.

Johnny R. :D :D

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Re: Berghof Obersalzberg

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Post by Geoff Walden » 25 Aug 2011, 18:44

Oh, you could be stationed in Mannheim - that was OK. You just didn't want to have an "involuntary" visit there. :milwink:

It's still that way, BTW.

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Re: Berghof Obersalzberg

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Post by muller1945 » 25 Aug 2011, 22:07

Nice photos, never seen the platterhof garage minus its other upper floors.

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Post by Mannheim » 27 Aug 2011, 05:33

Once again I may have misidentified the following photos. I took them armed only with two books (that I am pretty sure I bought at the Hotel zum Turken) and the advice of some locals I befriended. However, I am not sure I have captioned them correctly. Feel free to shoot me down in flames.
I must also learn how to put an umlaut in German words.
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This is the tricky one. I think it's part of the Goring house visble to the right rear in the wider photo above.
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I do recall wriggling down this cellar/ bunker, allegedly under the Goring house. I got busted and told to get out. I was a lot younger and slimmer then.
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I was told the white stick indicated roughly where the front of Goring's house had been.
Kein Irrtum ist so groß, der nicht seinen Zuhörer hat.

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Re: Berghof Obersalzberg

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Post by Max » 27 Aug 2011, 06:46

Mannheim wrote: I must also learn how to put an umlaut in German words.
Göring
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Re: Berghof Obersalzberg

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Post by Cor » 27 Aug 2011, 11:26

Mannheim you have some great pictures. If you have more keep them coming.

About the Goring cellar/bunker, i think its not there anymore but where exactly was the cellar in relation to the house, was it directly under the house or was it a bit away from the house.

And is there somebody who know, where the Goring House was exactly located at a map from the Goring Hill? i always find it difficult to really see where it was exactly.

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Post by Geoff Walden » 27 Aug 2011, 18:32

The cellar bunker was beneath Göring's house, on the back side (side away from the pool in front). All of these remains were removed in the late 1990s, in preparation for building the InterConti hotel.

This view of the InterConti hotel shows the approximate site of Göring's house - more-or-less where the pond is now.

Geoff
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Re: Berghof Obersalzberg

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Post by Alpenfestung » 27 Aug 2011, 18:34

Thank you Mannheim and everybody who has posted pictures of their OSB "expeditions", past and present - great to see what things looked like 20, 30, 40 years ago and what -if anything- is left to see today. Sad to have all this history destroyed in an attempt to make the past "go away".

Peter
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Re: Berghof Obersalzberg

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Post by acslater » 27 Aug 2011, 19:17

In Mannheim's latest photo set, the first picture shows two sets of stairs. Were these stairs located in the hill area to the right of his third picture? What part of Göring's house did these stairs belong to? Thanks!

Adam

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Re: Berghof Obersalzberg

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Post by Cor » 27 Aug 2011, 20:52

Thanks Geoff for your explanation, i always had doubts about the exact location of the house.

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Re: Berghof Obersalzberg

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Post by Johnnyrocket » 27 Aug 2011, 22:00

I to love these comparison locations of Geoff's.

I telling you... there would be a tremendous market for a historical reference book that would be dedicated in showing these (WWII/German NSDAP) locations in history to there actually geographical location today. Especially since most have been hidden deliberately or accidentally from the general public today.
You would be shock to know how many people are interested in this subject today—even though they will not admit it publicly.

Johnny R. :D

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Re: Berghof Obersalzberg

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Post by Johnnyrocket » 28 Aug 2011, 00:02

I even came up with a prototype cover design for Geoff's new book. :D

Johnny R.
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