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Re: Berghof Obersalzberg

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Post by Geoff Walden » 30 Jan 2014, 20:24

Geoff Walden wrote:(Christa Schroeder's book has a first-hand account of this period at the Berghof - she had been sent there with Schaub.)
This was incorrect - Christa Schroeder was sent from Berlin to BGL on 21 or 22 April 1945, and she experienced the 25 April bombing attacks in the Berghof tunnel. Schaub only arrived after the bombing - C.S. didn't give the date of his arrival, but it was apparently several days after the bombing. Schaub then went to work burning Hitler's personal files. He stayed at the Berchtesgadner Hof and traveled up and down the mountain for several days, but C.S. and other women continued to live in the Berghof tunnel rooms.

(Does anyone have Schaub's book? Did he say anything about his time in BGL/OSB after the bombing?)

C.S. said that control broke down and the plundering started only on 1 May, after the word went out to the public that Hitler was dead. C.S's account does have some errors - for example, she said the Göhler incident was on 5 May, which was obviously too late - Florian Beierl's book has the correct date (3 May).

C.S. and several other women, plus men from the OSB staff, and various SS men, stayed in and around the Berghof until 3 or 4 May 1945. So how could this "910th Antiaircraft/Tank Battalion" from the 101st Airborne Division possibly had been there at the same time?

The SS Kommandant of the OSB, SS-Obersturmbannführer Bernhard Frank, was also on the OSB with his staff from the bombing until 2 May 1945 (except for an absence of one day to visit Göring in detention). Again, how could an American unit have been hanging around the OSB ruins since 26 April, if the SS Kommandant and his troops were still there?

In an internet search, I could not find a 910th Antiaircraft/Tank Battalion (does this mean a battalion with antiaircraft weapons and also tanks, or a battalion that fought both aircraft and tanks?). But I did find a 910th AAA AW Battalion, which is apparently the same unit (attached to the 101st). I couldn't find exactly what all those letters stood for, except that the AW apparently stood for Automatic Weapons, and AAA was presumably Anti Aircraft Artillery. A couple of references that I found said that 2nd Platoon, D Battery, 910th AAA AW Battalion (Mobile) was attached to the 101st from 5 May - 9 May 1945. This was the only part of the 910th listed under the 101st. Obviously, the men of 2nd Platoon, D Battery, 910th AAA AW Battalion (Mobile) could not have been on the Obersalzberg before 5 May 1945, at least not as part of the 101st.

Does anyone have access to records to look up the April-May 1945 service of the 910th Antiaircraft/Tank Battalion or the 910th AAA AW Battalion?

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Post by Steve Hoog » 30 Jan 2014, 21:58

Geoff

All this sounds like a good way to get a headache!

I know Kempka claims to have been in Berchtesgaden many days before his arrest; but I don't remember any details about the Berghof at that point in his book.
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Post by Marcus » 01 Feb 2014, 23:54

A post by nebelwerferxxx that was a poor copy of http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic. ... 1#p1605991 was removed.

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Post by CPB » 02 Feb 2014, 22:06

I need to do a little trawling of the picture archives for something Berghof-related. I'm looking for images of the Great Hall, specifically the seating area by the big picture window.

So far I have tried:

BPK
http://bpkgate.picturemaxx.com

Harry von Gebhardt
https://plus.google.com/photos/10978183 ... banner=pwa

Ullstein
https://www.ullsteinbild.de/ullstein-webshop/start.html

Corbis
http://www.corbisimages.com

Bayerische Staatsbibliothek
http://www.bsb-muenchen.de/Bilder.591+M ... f16.0.html


All are excellent, but can you recommend others that you guys use?

Cheers all.

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Post by Geoff Walden » 03 Feb 2014, 21:27

Hi Chris,

Here are some pics from Eva Braun's photo albums in the US National Archives, and also Hoffmann's book "Hitler, Abseits vom Alltag."

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Post by Geoff Walden » 03 Feb 2014, 21:29

A couple postcard views, from Hoffmann photos (you probably already have these).
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Post by CPB » 03 Feb 2014, 21:35

Thanks Geoff :D

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Post by Steve Hoog » 04 Feb 2014, 00:28

That color photo is over the top!
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Post by Jade2014 » 04 Feb 2014, 14:01

Question, what is it?
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Post by Geoff Walden » 04 Feb 2014, 14:43

It was a stained glass window showing a stylized eagle with folded wings, with a swastika in a circle in the center. I have never seen a good clear photo of this.

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Never seen this one before...
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Post by CPB » 04 Feb 2014, 19:01

Geoff

I didn't know you had photos from the Eva Braun photo albums. That's very interesting.

Are there any showing the seating area by the Berghof fireplace? Also [off thread, granted] are there any showing the inside of her place in Munich?

Thanks!

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Post by Geoff Walden » 04 Feb 2014, 20:29

Geoff Walden wrote:It was a stained glass window showing a stylized eagle with folded wings, with a swastika in a circle in the center. I have never seen a good clear photo of this.
This is the best view I've ever been able to come up with for that window. It's grainy but it shows the details. The swastika appears reversed because it was meant to be viewed from inside the sunroom.
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Post by Geoff Walden » 04 Feb 2014, 20:31

CPB wrote:Geoff

I didn't know you had photos from the Eva Braun photo albums. That's very interesting.

Are there any showing the seating area by the Berghof fireplace? Also [off thread, granted] are there any showing the inside of her place in Munich?

Thanks!

Chris
Chris,

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Post by Steve Hoog » 04 Feb 2014, 21:21

I'm betting that stained glass would fetch a penny or two if it were still around and for sell.

What an excellent series of photos in the last two days!
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