Berghof Obersalzberg

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Re: Berghof Obersalzberg

Post by CPB » 01 Apr 2014 14:53

Interesting photo here on German ebay:

http://www.ebay.de/itm/2-Ak-Obersalzber ... 461d188fd3


@Geoff - who is the dark-haired woman in the photo with Eva Braun at the Berghof, do you know? It looks a little like Sofie Stork.

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Re: Berghof Obersalzberg

Post by Geoff Walden » 01 Apr 2014 18:52

That one I posted where Eva is very blonde :milwink: , beside her is her sister Gretl. They are talking to adjutant Wilhelm Brückner.

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Re: Berghof Obersalzberg

Post by CPB » 01 Apr 2014 19:04

Thanks Geoff- great photo.

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Re: Berghof Obersalzberg

Post by Dolomitenfreund » 01 Apr 2014 20:30

While I must confess I have not looked through all 233 pages relating to this the topic of the Berghof, I am posting some photographs I took back in 1993 while one could see more of the ruins than are visible today.
At the time one could still enter the garage under the large terrace. Upon one of my subsequent visits someone had broken a hole large enough to climb through into the front part of the basement. For those familiar with the layout of the Berghof, the area in question was directly under the "Grosse Halle" or Large Living Room with the large picture window.
Photographs 1, 5 & 6 show various sides of the garage, while #3, which is frightfully underexposed, shows the inside of the garage looking towards the large garage door on the left. The small hole which entered the basement is seen to the right of the person with the red jacket. Probably the most unusual photograph is #2 which was taken at the foot of the steps in the "Schaltraum". The doorway of this room opened right between the front of the garage door and the large staircase leading up to the main entrance.
I have deleted #4 (due to 5 photograph limit)which showed the back retaining wall as it was. Some of this wall is still visible now, otherwise there are no signs.
Hope these shots are of interest.
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Re: Berghof Obersalzberg

Post by ghostsoldier » 01 Apr 2014 21:21

Great photos, Alvin...thanks for sharing these! :)
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Re: Berghof Obersalzberg

Post by Br. James » 02 Apr 2014 01:32

MANY thanks, Alvin! Great photos indeed! When I visited the Obersalzberg in June of 1998 the Berghof property was posted and, not wanting to wind up in a Bavarian jailhouse, I only stood beside my car in the driveway entrance and looked in reminiscence at what I knew once stood there. Your photos show much more of the foundation structure being visible than I could see five years later. But I wouldn't have missed it for the world!

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Re: Berghof Obersalzberg

Post by tunix0 » 02 Apr 2014 07:49

Great Pictures Alvin!

I have digitally edited your photo #3 to lighten it up a little. :D

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Re: Berghof Obersalzberg

Post by Steve Hoog » 03 Apr 2014 00:52

Very nice Alvin, thank you!
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Post by Johnnyrocket » 03 Apr 2014 02:26

interesting site:

http://hitlerpages.com/pagina24.html

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Re: Berghof Obersalzberg

Post by Br. James » 03 Apr 2014 15:13

Hi Hajo,

If you have access to a copy of "The Third Reich: Then and Now" by Tony Le Tissier, you'll find therein schematics of both the main floor and the first upstairs floor of the Berghof, including Hitler's and Eva Braun's bedrooms and Hitler's study, as they appeared after the final renovation/expansion of the building. Under almost constant renovation and expansion from 1933, Haus Wachenfeld/Berghof finally settled down in 1936 and, while Knut Hamsom's last note includes a schematic of an even further expanded concept of the Berghof, this expansion was never undertaken. (The last two-storey section in the left-handed wing of the house was never added.)

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Re: Berghof Obersalzberg

Post by Geoff Walden » 03 Apr 2014 16:54

Hi all,

There was yet another addition to the Berghof in 1938, extending the eastern wing to about double its original length. There was an added entry into the basement, and a little part that stuck out from the front, as well as several rooms. House manager Herbert Döhring said that the balcony rooms on the end of this extension belonged to him and his wife (note that there was eventually a balcony window there in addition to the door).

PS - Great photos, Alvin - thanks! Those are some of the best photos I have seen of the Berghof garage ... much better than the rather poor ones I took in 1981.

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Re: Berghof Obersalzberg

Post by Biber » 03 Apr 2014 17:57

Can anyone explain (if there even is an explanation) the striping on the shutters almost always seen on German buildings? I've always been curious as to what it may have meant or represented or...

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Re: Berghof Obersalzberg

Post by Geoff Walden » 03 Apr 2014 19:35

Hausverwalter Döhring said these particular shutters we see in these Berghof photos were red-white-red in honor of the Austrian Anschluß (I have been reading the book, Ralf - thanks!).

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Re: Berghof Obersalzberg

Post by Max » 03 Apr 2014 22:13

This is a most convincing pic [post 3491] for the position of the gate [circled?] - re post #3472
The sloping roof, white walls, tree behind etc. suggest the Berghof rather than Haus Wachenfeld
Geoff - if you have this movie, is there a slightly better angle of this detail?
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Re: Berghof Obersalzberg

Post by Cor » 03 Apr 2014 22:31

Max wrote:This is a most convincing pic [post 3491] for the position of the gate [circled?] - re post #3472
The sloping roof, white walls, tree behind etc. suggest the Berghof rather than Haus Wachenfeld
First i was thinking the same Max but in the pic of post 3472 there is a long wall beneath the sloping roof and in this pic in your post the wall ends immediately.

Second in the pic of post 3472 it looks like the man is holding a sort of doorbell? Why would this be behind the Berghof?

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