Berghof Obersalzberg

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Re: Berghof Obersalzberg

Post by Annelie » 14 Jun 2014 22:45

Thankyou Pavel.

There is never ending curiosity about the area, people and times.
I hope it never ends. I find it all interesting.

Just watched the greenhouse bit...pretty high tech for the times and even now.
Interesting for sure.
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Re: Berghof Obersalzberg

Post by PavelH » 14 Jun 2014 22:49

So hope I.

Btw, the place is Berchtesgadener Hof :thumbsup:
Someone else has to know the other officers.

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Re: Berghof Obersalzberg

Post by pofoka » 16 Jun 2014 13:34

Hi Geoff!
Today my book finally arrived! Terrific! It's will be a beautiful piece in my collection! Thank you for this :thumbsup:
Best greetings!
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Re: Berghof Obersalzberg

Post by Johnnyrocket » 16 Jun 2014 14:10

Beautiful cover design, I'm ordering mine today.

Can't wait.

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Re: Berghof Obersalzberg

Post by Erich S » 16 Jun 2014 23:46

Just ordered mine.

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Re: Berghof Obersalzberg

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Re: Berghof Obersalzberg

Post by Geoff Walden » 20 Jun 2014 02:18

pofoka wrote:Hi Geoff!
Today my book finally arrived! Terrific! It's will be a beautiful piece in my collection! Thank you for this :thumbsup:
Best greetings!
Johnnyrocket wrote:Beautiful cover design, I'm ordering mine today.
Can't wait.
Johnny R.

Thanks to all! Hope you all enjoy the book!

Sadly, our beloved Holzkäfer Restaurant (mentioned on page 109) closed in January.

Geoff

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Re: Berghof Obersalzberg

Post by J. Duncan » 20 Jun 2014 09:09

Geoff
Congratulations on your book finally getting published. Thank you for your contributions to the forum and the helpfulness you have showed others.
I did have a question for you about all these destructions of particular sites and closings (such as you mention above).
How is all this eradication affecting your tours? Are you having to adjust to the less TR inclined, or simply point out increasingly that such and such place was once here but is now gone? From what I have observed in many cases, historical buildings and sites are being demolished and are simply replaced by parking lots, shopping malls, gas stations...it's not a matter of putting something in place more ideologically or aesthetically appealing but simply making room for more consumerist use.
Your favorite little eatery (after sitting closed awhile) might get bulldozed to be replaced by a McDonald's and a little strip mall.

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Re: Berghof Obersalzberg

Post by Max » 20 Jun 2014 15:01

It has just now occurred to me that the view from the great window of the Berghof was more or less to the North.
Can this be??
I would have thought that a southerly view was far superior [for the winter sun]
Has it ever been established why AH chose this particular site and orientation?
Max
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Re: Berghof Obersalzberg

Post by Annelie » 20 Jun 2014 16:27

Max, the previous home stood that way I believe.

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Re: Berghof Obersalzberg

Post by Max » 21 Jun 2014 02:36

Annelie wrote:Max, the previous home stood that way I believe.
Thanks Annelie.
I guess the south view at that site would have been very uninteresting - looking straight into the rise and not much sun.
My point was, why not a site with a fabulous view AND better use of the winter sun ?

I think that the low winter sun is behind the hill for most of the day , thus the Berghof would have be in its shadow.
Perhaps there are other peculiarities of the topography that make the site more attractive.

Someone who knows the site might have comments on how the building interacted with sun - especially in winter.

http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic. ... 0#p1881400
suggests that AH had a particular interest in the view of the Untersberg, but it all sounds a bit fanciful to me.
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Re: Berghof Obersalzberg

Post by Timo-T » 21 Jun 2014 15:45

Hello friends,
I found some pictures, I and I believe I have this never seen before and I want to share the pics with you in this amazing board.
The Pics are from the Walter Frentz Collection.

Adolf Hitler and some generals in the Great Hall at the Berghof (Source: spiegel.de)
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Adolf Hitler on a walk with Walther Hewel. The Berghof is seen in the background. (Source: spiegel.de)
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Eva Braun, Adolf Hitler and some more sitting at the Berghof in the Great Hall (Source: spiegel.de)
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And here is the link to the complete article: Hitlers Kameramann Walter Frentz: Das Auge des "Dritten Reiches"

Here is another one from Walter Frentz:

Adolf Hitler and a little girl outside the Berghof (Source: spiegelonline)
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And here is the article: Photo Gallery: Hitler's Paving Stones

Many Greetings
Timo
Sorry for my english. The google translator helps me sometimes with the translation. I hope you can understand me.

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Re: Berghof Obersalzberg

Post by British Sapper » 21 Jun 2014 20:07

Are you sure that those top two pictures are of Hitler ?

Don't look like him for me.

The bottom of the two pics they are walking over the now Golf course near the Gutshof. IIRC the Allies were going to use this ground for Operation Foxley.

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Re: Berghof Obersalzberg

Post by Johnnyrocket » 21 Jun 2014 20:14

Interesting image of the rear of Hitler...don't see to many like that.

I imagine A.H. to be around 5' 11" and probably about 175-185 pounds...based on this time in history.
I don't think I ever heard his exact height and Weight?


Johnny R.

Ps: Funny how tyrants never listen to their Generals...and Hitler was no exception.
I must say he certainly had a very beautiful area of the world to disagree in. :D


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Re: Berghof Obersalzberg

Post by Geoff Walden » 22 Jun 2014 00:52

Thanks for posting those photos, Timo-T! The two photos do show Hitler. His distinctive sleeve eagle in the top photo is the answer.
J. Duncan wrote:Geoff
Congratulations on your book finally getting published. Thank you for your contributions to the forum and the helpfulness you have showed others.
I did have a question for you about all these destructions of particular sites and closings (such as you mention above).
How is all this eradication affecting your tours? Are you having to adjust to the less TR inclined, or simply point out increasingly that such and such place was once here but is now gone? From what I have observed in many cases, historical buildings and sites are being demolished and are simply replaced by parking lots, shopping malls, gas stations...it's not a matter of putting something in place more ideologically or aesthetically appealing but simply making room for more consumerist use.
Your favorite little eatery (after sitting closed awhile) might get bulldozed to be replaced by a McDonald's and a little strip mall.
Thanks! Well, yes, my tours have had to change with the times, as there is no longer the Platterhof to see, or the ruins of the Teehaus, or the Berchtesgadener Hof hotel. Those are the major changes. Still plenty of sites around there that folks want to see (hence, my book). I HOPE something like that doesn't happen to the land where the Holzkäfer stands (still closed)! I suppose it's possible ... who knows ... I never believed the Bavarian government would spend the money to tear out the Teehaus ruins (as I told folks on a tour, just three months before the ruins were removed in an unpublicized and surprise move). But it happened ...

Geoff

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