Berghof Obersalzberg

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Re: Berghof Obersalzberg

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Post by Annelie » 25 Feb 2017, 20:30

I know this question will be pretty strange but I am curious.

Am reckoning that they used septic tanks in those days?
Would the tank still be in the ground? Were did the water
come from?

(too much watching how to build) :-)

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Re: Berghof Obersalzberg

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Post by Biber » 27 Feb 2017, 15:55

EEEWWWW!!!! You mean somewhere there may be remnants of AH poop?!!!

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Re: Berghof Obersalzberg

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Post by CPB » 27 Feb 2017, 17:19

Biber wrote:EEEWWWW!!!! You mean somewhere there may be remnants of AH poop?!!!
No, I think that was sold on ebay a while back.

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Re: Berghof Obersalzberg

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Post by Geoff Walden » 28 Feb 2017, 00:38

You all have me choking with laughter (again)!

There was a very extensive water supply and sewage system on the Obersalzberg - Florian Beierl told me that these underground systems are far more extensive than any of the tunnels for people. The water came from various reservoirs higher up on the hillsides -some of these are still in use for the same purpose. However, I believe that the water supply for modern buildings like the Türken is now pumped up from down in town. Not 100% sure of that, though, as the big reservoir across from where the Platterhof was (near the S-Muni-Stollen) is obviously still in operation.

There was a sewage treatment system at the Gutshof, but I don't know how much sewage it treated, or if there were other such systems on the Obersalzberg. Possiblt there was one down below Buchenhöhe. I would be pretty certain, given that terrain, there were no septic systems there. But you know, I never read anything about that. One would think that the Germans wouldn't object to that, as they spread raw liquid cow manure all over the fields (even today), but I just never heard of a septic system anywhere in Germany, now that I think of it. For sure, nowhere there that I have ever lived.

Anyone know for sure?

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Post by Landser » 02 Mar 2017, 04:45

Oh,yes they were called Versitzgrube.Maybe Wiki will tell you more?

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Post by Johnnyrocket » 02 Mar 2017, 17:01

Great early images of the berghof:
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Post by Johnnyrocket » 02 Mar 2017, 17:04

More early images of the Berghof:
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Post by Biber » 02 Mar 2017, 21:43

A while back there was a thread (was it here?) about whether or not drivers turned around in the Berghof driveway or backed down then backed up. This last picture kinda ends that question in my opinion. Though, imagine being THE driver to send the Fuhrer's limo tumbling down the side of the mountain trying to turn around!

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Post by Annelie » 02 Mar 2017, 22:23

Yes, there was a question pertaining to the driveway,
as I am the one who asked about it. Its still debateable.

Depends on the photo....this one is from the link someone added here somewhere?
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Post by Johnnyrocket » 02 Mar 2017, 22:28

Nice old image here Annelie of the Berghof, before reconstruction.
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Post by Max » 02 Mar 2017, 23:25

Biber wrote:A while back there was a thread (was it here?) about whether or not drivers turned around in the Berghof driveway or backed down then backed up. This last picture kinda ends that question in my opinion.
Sorry Biber
I'm still not sure if you think they could have turned or not.
I think they could have.
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http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic. ... 5#p1898505

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Re: Berghof Obersalzberg

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Post by hsa601 » 03 Mar 2017, 09:46

Looking at the Pic above that Biber refers to I don't think they could have turned these cars around on the driveway itself. Much too narrow.

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Post by Max » 03 Mar 2017, 11:40

hsa601 wrote:Looking at the Pic above that Biber refers to I don't think they could have turned these cars around on the driveway itself. Much too narrow.
"Looking" at a photo with its attendant problems of foreshortening and parallax is one thing but what did you make of my analysis based on original scale drawings of the building?

What did you make of the photo with the parked[?] car? [ or perhaps it was in the middle of a three point turn]

It seems to me that turns were feasible and given that this was the residence of the national leader with all the prestige that office held,
that turns were a regular event.

Backing up and down the driveway would have not been dignified or cool.
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Post by hsa601 » 03 Mar 2017, 13:27

You are right Max. Definitely not cool :D . Reading the original discussion on the turns it could have been plausible albeit difficult especially with the larger, heavier vehicles.

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Re: Berghof Obersalzberg

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Post by Biber » 03 Mar 2017, 16:21

Max wrote:
Biber wrote:I'm still not sure if you think they could have turned or not.
I think they could have.

I'm in the category that it is patently obvious they wouldn't have. Whether or not they could I think is exceedingly doubtful. Like I said, would YOU want to be the one to have sent the Fuhrer's limo down over the hill, trying to pull off a stunt? Others disagree, I'm fine with that. I think the other thread pretty much covered that topic though. sorry for the digression here.

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