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Re: Berghof Obersalzberg

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Post by Johnnyrocket » 28 Jun 2017, 23:13

More main stairs views showing locations:
Notice the name "Frank Pack" in graffiti at the top of the stairs 1945 bombing image.
Wonder where Frank Pack is now?
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Re: Berghof Obersalzberg

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Post by Geoff Walden » 29 Jun 2017, 03:28

I'm rather skeptical about that "door handle" on the previous page. Not skeptical that it came from some Obersalzberg building - it likely did. But I can't see any door handle like this, in any period photo of the Berghof or the Eagle's Nest (if someone else finds one, please post it).

We know what the door handles of the Berghof front doors looked like - both sides of the main entry door, and the door in the corridor just beyond that led into the Great Room. They were the common curved type, like this door handle that can be seen in the Hotel zum Türken today (also shown in the period photos on the previous page). This style was also on the dining room door, and other doors in the main corridor. This appears to have been the most common style in the Berghof (and for what it's worth, it's still common today and you can still buy new door handles very similar to this).
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Same with the Kehlsteinhaus - the interior door handles that show up in photos, and in there today, are mostly this curved style (here is one that is on the door leading into the former guard's room, that is now a small dining area).
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Maybe this handle was actually a window handle - it looks like a crank handle to me - some of the windows in the Kehlsteinhaus originally lowered into the casings (the 1950s-60s windows in there today are not the same type and do not lower), and maybe this handle was a crank to lower a window. I can't see any such thing in any period photos, but maybe ...
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Re: Berghof Obersalzberg

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Post by Geoff Walden » 29 Jun 2017, 03:33

Johnnyrocket wrote:What was this section jutting out from the front left of the Bergfhof?
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It was part of the 1938 additions to the house. I've never seen any plan that shows that, so I'm not sure what this section was used for.
Has anyone seen any Berghof plans from 1938?
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Post by Geoff Walden » 29 Jun 2017, 03:41

Johnnyrocket wrote:Locals looting the Obersalzberg after the 1945 bombing.
http://footage.framepool.com/en/shot/30 ... end-of-war
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I have seen this man identified as Michael Lochner, who was a local artist. The Lochner family lived just down the road from Haus Wachenfeld, at Baumgartmuehle, on the "old Obersalzberg." Bormann forced them to sell out and all those buildings were torn down.
Johnnyrocket wrote:Interesting site with great images for Berghof reference information:
http://www.warfaremagazine.co.uk/articl ... sgaden/140
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Wow, that's some really great colorizing of those photos! Thanks for the link!
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Post by Geoff Walden » 29 Jun 2017, 03:47

Br. James wrote:Just wondering: has anyone here ever seen any photographs of the Berghof kitchen or the upper floors (other than the standard photos of Hitler's and Eva Braun's bedrooms and Hitler's study), or of the interior of the Adjutancy Building? Just wondering...??
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I ran across a couple stills from a period film, supposed to show the Berghof kitchen (source unknown).
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Post by Geoff Walden » 29 Jun 2017, 03:53

Found this one too, that b14ck posted, probably in this thread, way back there somewhere. It shows the oven that is seen in the period photo, after the war.
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Post by Johnnyrocket » 29 Jun 2017, 05:32

Neat images Geoff. Never seen these before.
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Post by Johnnyrocket » 29 Jun 2017, 05:43

I wonder where this guy is now? It would be interesting to know.
Anyone got any guesses on what the name is, I made a couple of suggestions here. :D :o
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Re: Berghof Obersalzberg

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Post by Max » 29 Jun 2017, 09:07

Johnnyrocket wrote:What was this section jutting out from the front left of the Bergfhof?
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I doubt that this is the Berghof at all .
What is the building in the background?
Here it is again

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Re: Berghof Obersalzberg

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Post by Untersberg » 29 Jun 2017, 09:53

It's the Türken

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Re: Berghof Obersalzberg

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Post by Max » 29 Jun 2017, 10:06

Here is the gate in the white wall fence that we were discussing some time back.
It was a part of the Haus Wachenfeld version of the Berghof after all.

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Post by Max » 29 Jun 2017, 11:09

Untersberg wrote:It's the Türken
Yes - you are right of course.
Here again is the feature in question - the east end of the Berghof . :oops: sorry about that - had a bit of a brain fade.

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Re: Berghof Obersalzberg

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Post by Johnnyrocket » 29 Jun 2017, 15:01

Max, what a fantastic link you have posted...truly some great images of the "Haus Wachenfeld" version of the Berghof.
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Re: Berghof Obersalzberg

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Post by shamirnewell » 29 Jun 2017, 15:15

Given the location I would guess a dining nook/area for household staff.? I cannot find a plan of building which Shows this addition

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Re: Berghof Obersalzberg

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Post by Br. James » 29 Jun 2017, 19:11

"I ran across a couple stills from a period film, supposed to show the Berghof kitchen (source unknown). Geoff"

Hi Geoff,

Many thanks for these, which are new to me! the woman who is shown alone in the second kitchen photo appears to be the one at the far right of the four ladies in the first photo. And could that be the elusive Constanze Manziarly -- third from the left -- in the first photo? Someone captured unique moments in history with these photos!

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