Berghof Obersalzberg

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Re: Berghof Obersalzberg

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Post by ramms » 22 Nov 2018, 19:21

SS Kaserne in 1951.
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Re: Berghof Obersalzberg

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Post by Johnnyrocket » 22 Nov 2018, 19:22

Nice picture.
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Re: Berghof Obersalzberg

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Post by ramms » 22 Nov 2018, 19:29

Kindergarten building.
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Re: Berghof Obersalzberg

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Post by Max » 23 Nov 2018, 07:51

The arches in the kindergarten seem to be much taller [or narrower] than in ramms first [subject] photo [from inside looking out]
For comparison I have manipulated another view so that the heights of the arches are the same.
Even allowing for slightly different angles it seems that they are not the same arch.
A possible explanation is that the subject photo arch is partially filled with rubble/soil, but this filling does not appear to the same extent in any other photo that I can see.
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Perhaps it is the arched doorway on the eastern end of the building
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Post by Geoff Walden » 24 Nov 2018, 03:35

Thanks for your attention to detail, Max!
Now I don't believe that view was taken from the Kindergarten building at all (I had previously considered that arch on the end as well).
A more likely candidate, IMO, was the arched doorway in the Platterhof garage/employee building, that looked over the SS Kaserne.
Besides the general angle, the photo in questions shows the "inside" wall of the heating plant chimney - the part that was mostly inside the building - with the two clean-out holes (?) on that side. I think that viewing that chimney from the Kindergarten would have given much more of a side angle, while viewing it from the Platterhof garage seems just about right.
It's amazing, the "sleuthing" that goes on in this thread!
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Re: Berghof Obersalzberg

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Post by Triares » 28 Nov 2018, 13:53

Greetings from Germany.
After a short research I found this forum and hope you can help me too. Is there a possibility to get the plans from the Berghof (this request goes mainly to Geoff Walden)?
Great work you are doing here, I am impressed and remain with the best regards.

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Post by Geoff Walden » 28 Nov 2018, 22:14

Hi Triares,

Welcome to AHF!
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I have sent you an email via the Contact link ... please reply to my email address, about the Berghof plans.

To everyone else ... There used to be a link to download the entire Berghof plan set from a university or government agency in Munich, but I can't find this link now. Did anyone else save it, and could you post it here?

Thanks!

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Re: Berghof Obersalzberg

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Post by Br. James » 28 Nov 2018, 23:33

Hi Geoff,

That would be a great resource to have! A link to download the whole set of Berghof plans would be ideal here! I know that Tony Le Tissier published the floorplans of the ground floor and the 2nd floor of the Berghof in his "The Third Reich: Then and Now" a number of years ago -- I still have it in my library -- but those were the schematics of the original or early construction phase; it would be wonderful to have access to schematics of ALL of the floor levels of the Berghof, including the basement, the extensions and the Adjuntancy!

And BTW, Geoff, I wish you, your brother and your family all of the blessings of the coming holiday season!

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Post by Geoff Walden » 29 Nov 2018, 01:03

Thanks, my friend ... same holiday wishes to you and yours, and to all AHF friends!

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Re: Berghof Obersalzberg

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Post by Max » 29 Nov 2018, 05:29

Triares wrote:
28 Nov 2018, 13:53
Greetings from Germany.
After a short research I found this forum and hope you can help me too. Is there a possibility to get the plans from the Berghof (this request goes mainly to Geoff Walden)?
Great work you are doing here, I am impressed and remain with the best regards.

Not floor plans, but elevation drawings
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Re: Berghof Obersalzberg

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Post by Mannheim » 29 Nov 2018, 07:58

Is this what you're looking for?
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Post by Mannheim » 29 Nov 2018, 08:00

... and the basement:
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Re: Berghof Obersalzberg

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Post by hsa601 » 29 Nov 2018, 09:57

Very Interesting. Thank you for sharing. This house had a lot of Bathrooms.

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Re: Berghof Obersalzberg

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Post by Br. James » 29 Nov 2018, 18:53

Yes, I see...do you think that's because the occupants were full of s...?!?!

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Re: Berghof Obersalzberg

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Post by Triares » 30 Nov 2018, 22:35

Thank's a lot for your quick support...fantastic work!

Best regards!

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