Berghof Obersalzberg

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Re: Berghof Obersalzberg

Post by Biber » 07 Apr 2021 12:54

In the first picture, is the tall one with the cigarette holder Ernst Hanfstaengl?

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Re: Berghof Obersalzberg

Post by Helly Angel » 07 Apr 2021 17:39

Biber wrote:
07 Apr 2021 12:54
In the first picture, is the tall one with the cigarette holder Ernst Hanfstaengl?
No. It is the SA Colonel Wilhelm Brückner, personal Aid of AH until 1940.

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Re: Berghof Obersalzberg

Post by Mike Tal » 19 Apr 2021 14:28

Helly Angel wrote:
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Hello all,

This friend is one the great misteries of the Berghof, at least to me! Someone know who is he?

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What I find interesting on these photos is, that the longer section of the terrace stone railing is missing its concrete top that is seen on the shorter section on one of the pictures. Were these pictures thus taken while the final touches on the newly built Berghof were being completed?

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Re: Berghof Obersalzberg

Post by Helly Angel » 27 Apr 2021 00:45

Hello all!

Someone know who is the first lady since the left?

The rest of the group are Hanni Morell, Albert Speer, Sofie Stork and Anni Brandt. No date.

No sure but I´m thinking is Margret Speer....

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Re: Berghof Obersalzberg

Post by CPB » 27 Apr 2021 07:51

Isn't it Eva Braun?

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Re: Berghof Obersalzberg

Post by Geoff Walden » 27 Apr 2021 14:32

I agree- have always thought that was EB, even though it may not look like her in other photos. But she changed her appearance frequently.
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Re: Berghof Obersalzberg

Post by Helly Angel » 27 Apr 2021 17:06

You´re right! Thanks both!

Geoff, I have an observation about the picture with AH and the woman in the great window... I was thinking of writing it here but I think I better send it to direct mail, it is to make the correction on the website.

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Re: Berghof Obersalzberg

Post by Biber » 28 Apr 2021 22:39

Geoff Walden wrote:
27 Apr 2021 14:32
I agree- have always thought that was EB, even though it may not look like her in other photos. But she changed her appearance frequently.
To my eyes EB is not in that picture. But I certainly would defer to those more knowledgeable.

Did EB usually wear a watch/bracelet on her right wrist? Has she been photographed in that dress before? I don't recall seeing her before with that hair style.

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Re: Berghof Obersalzberg

Post by Helly Angel » 28 Apr 2021 23:19

I agree with Biber... I have the same doubts.

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Re: Berghof Obersalzberg

Post by hsa601 » 29 Apr 2021 19:03

Sorry Geoff, I also don’t think that it is EB. Facial features are just too different.

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Re: Berghof Obersalzberg

Post by CPB » 30 Apr 2021 10:19

It's her....a photo from the same tea party, same dress, etc.
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Re: Berghof Obersalzberg

Post by Biber » 30 Apr 2021 14:46

CPB wrote:
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It's her....a photo from the same tea party, same dress, etc.
Yes same person, but I'm still not convinced it's EB. I don't think Eva's features were that pudgy (cheeks & nose) and she didn't tend to smile like that as far as I can tell. What is the original source of the pictures? Who would most likely have been behind the camera?

Edit: It could very well be EB. The bracelet appears the same as that seen in other photos of EB. Geoff is right she seemed to be a woman of a 1000 faces.

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Re: Berghof Obersalzberg

Post by Geoff Walden » 30 Apr 2021 17:00

I was going to express some doubts about the first photo, at least, not complete certainty, but Chris's second photo certainly seems to me to show EB. In addition to changing hair styles, it seems she went through phases of thin face - pudgy face ... she probably dieted a lot, although I seem to remember that Hitler said he didn't like skinny women. As Biber said, certainly a woman of very different appearances.
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Re: Berghof Obersalzberg

Post by Geoff Walden » 30 Apr 2021 17:14

Helly Angel wrote:
27 Apr 2021 17:06
Geoff, I have an observation about the picture with AH and the woman in the great window... I was thinking of writing it here but I think I better send it to direct mail, it is to make the correction on the website.
Helly, do you mean this photo?
Haushaelterin3.jpg
I am not at all sure about that identification. I have seen this women also identified as Sofie Stork (but it doesn't look like her to me) and Anni Brandt, as well as Gretl Mitlstrasser. It's too bad the online print (Album 3-13A) is not clearer, and there is no identification shown.
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Re: Berghof Obersalzberg

Post by CPB » 30 Apr 2021 17:37

Interesting. I checked some books and in another photo from that same tea party, the 'EB' woman is labelled as von Below's wife.

I'm not sure that's correct. I am putting my Reichchmarks on it being Eva Braun.
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