Berghof Obersalzberg

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Re: Berghof Obersalzberg

Post by Helly Angel » 08 May 2021 18:31

In amazon you can buy a picture about this place:

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Or even a pilow cover!

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Re: Berghof Obersalzberg

Post by headwest » 12 May 2021 19:25

Hi everyone

I was doing some google earth looking today (still cant believe they have it so rarely in Germany ) but was tracing the road up from Berchtesgaden to the old Berghof. as you go up the road, when you turn left off the main rd to go past the old Guardhouse foundation, there is a stone wall there. it looks somewhat like Hitlers driveway walls

i am curious if any of these walls are from that time?

also

is the road from town the exact same as it was then in terms of the route?

thanks so much

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Re: Berghof Obersalzberg

Post by Georg_S » 12 May 2021 20:36

Hello

I have been there and I made a screendump of Google Earth and the red Dot point out where AH's house (Berghof) was located. The house to the right if Hotel v Türken

The only thing remains is the supportive Wall in the back of the house.

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Re: Berghof Obersalzberg

Post by headwest » 13 May 2021 15:00

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/p/AF1 ... HJhm=h1440

This is the turn off, and road and wall i was asking about. its right below the berghof and right before the old guard Shack.

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Re: Berghof Obersalzberg

Post by Helly Angel » 14 May 2021 02:40

headwest wrote:
13 May 2021 15:00
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/p/AF1 ... HJhm=h1440

This is the turn off, and road and wall i was asking about. its right below the berghof and right before the old guard Shack.
This is the Main SS guardhouse (Torhaus Berghof)
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It arrived today! I bought this in Amazon, in person look better! Totally vivid colors!
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Re: Berghof Obersalzberg

Post by AmateurHistorian » 14 May 2021 15:30

headwest wrote:
12 May 2021 19:25
i am curious if any of these walls are from that time?
Probably.
headwest wrote:
12 May 2021 19:25
is the road from town the exact same as it was then in terms of the route?
The road is contemporary. It appears on contemporary reconnaissance photo's.
All the roads and buildings on this map are verified.
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Roughly the roads are in the same locations. Between the former Berghof location and hotel Zum Turken the road is a bit different, due to all the bomb damage.

This image is from before the Wachenfeld -> Berghof transformation, the property and road surroundings do not seem to have any stone borders there yet.

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Re: Berghof Obersalzberg

Post by ramms » 14 May 2021 17:58

21.8.1951. Berghof.
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Re: Berghof Obersalzberg

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21.8.1951. SS Barracks Complex.
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Re: Berghof Obersalzberg

Post by AmateurHistorian » 14 May 2021 18:08

@ramms your first photo would have been very helpful in the - could a car turn at the Berghof driveway - discussion some years ago. (I read this topic too much) ;) Nice pictures! Some I know but the first one, I have never seen before.

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Re: Berghof Obersalzberg

Post by CPB » 14 May 2021 18:21

Really nice photos, thanks for posting.

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Re: Berghof Obersalzberg

Post by Max » 15 May 2021 08:50

AmateurHistorian wrote:
14 May 2021 18:08
@ramms your first photo would have been very helpful in the - could a car turn at the Berghof driveway - discussion some years ago. (I read this topic too much) ;) Nice pictures! Some I know but the first one, I have never seen before.
It looks like the driver might actually be engaged in a three point turn.
Does anyone recognize the make and model of the car?
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Re: Berghof Obersalzberg

Post by Biber » 15 May 2021 15:21

Max wrote:
15 May 2021 08:50
AmateurHistorian wrote:
14 May 2021 18:08
@ramms your first photo would have been very helpful in the - could a car turn at the Berghof driveway - discussion some years ago. (I read this topic too much) ;) Nice pictures! Some I know but the first one, I have never seen before.
It looks like the driver might actually be engaged in a three point turn.
Does anyone recognize the make and model of the car?
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It'll be interesting to learn the details of that car. I dare say its apparent wheel base is a far cry from that of the limos that typically occupied that driveway during the TR era.

I am of the mind that a turn around was only done with great difficulty and rarely if ever happened after determining that it could be done. Besides, I doubt anybody really wanted to be responsible for sending the Führer's Mercedes careening down the side of the hill because of an ill advised bet.

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Re: Berghof Obersalzberg

Post by ramms » 15 May 2021 17:36

Max wrote:
15 May 2021 08:50
Does anyone recognize the make and model of the car?
Opel Olympia Cabriolet (1950–1953).
Outside length: 4050 mm / 159.4 in.
https://www.automobile-catalog.com/make ... /1950.html
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