Axis Powers and Religion

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Axis Powers and Religion

Post by Herr_Doktor » 09 Jan 2004 19:21

I have wondered, were the Axis (Germany, Italy, Austria, etc.) ever involved in religious campaigns? I know that Hitler and his men were greatly interested in the Occult and various Judeo-Christian Relics, but did they ever mandate a "National Religion"?

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Post by Marcus » 09 Jan 2004 19:22

No, Hitler and his men were not greatly interested in the Occult.

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Post by Helly Angel » 09 Jan 2004 19:37

Yes, I agree with Marcus.

Hitler and Nazis were not interested in religion. All this "stuff" is made by Hollywood.

Is interesting that today the called NS groups in southamerica make a strong relations between they own wrong vision of NS and the "Occultism".
This is like an aberration. 8O

But this is theme for other forum, not a serious forum like this.

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Post by Herr_Doktor » 10 Jan 2004 02:32

Helly Angel wrote:Yes, I agree with Marcus.

Hitler and Nazis were not interested in religion. All this "stuff" is made by Hollywood.

Is interesting that today the called NS groups in southamerica make a strong relations between they own wrong vision of NS and the "Occultism".
This is like an aberration. 8O

But this is theme for other forum, not a serious forum like this.

Best,
I was just wondering if the Nazis allowed the citizens and soldiers to practice their religion as they did pre-nazism, that's all. I was not inferring that they were roaming the globe looking for the eye teeth of Jesus.

Sorry I posted the question.

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Post by Helly Angel » 10 Jan 2004 03:13

Sorry Herr Doktor, please don´t feel bad, disturbe or offended.

We are talking about generalities, please don´t feel angry for our answersor, we are not arrogant for your question, the forum is for that: to clear doubts and know about interesting facts that you are interested.

Sorry again.

Anyway, the nazis were really not interested in these theme. For example, Himmler named to a high officer calles Karl María a.k.a. Willigut like the official Researcher of Religion theme. I think he is the author of the book "The SS Family" that you can buy in http://www.hammer.com for example. These book offer several rituals magic-religious called Asatro.

Himmler had the intention of change the religion in the SS, reduce the Christians ideas for paganism. And I knew for the testimony of a SS man that this was motiv to secret jokes against the "Treue Heini" For the knights of the Black Order these ideas were a bad joke.

This is an example.

And please sorry again,

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Post by 1812 » 10 Jan 2004 07:55

I think they did have a religion. It was called National Socialism.

I read that they would replace the crosses on the churches with swastikas. A way to draw converts I suppose.

Seriously I don't think it mattered what religion you were. As long as you were not Jewish that is.

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Post by Nagelfar » 10 Jan 2004 10:55

1812 wrote:Seriously I don't think it mattered what religion you were. As long as you were not Jewish that is.
actually, there were SS men allowed to practice Judaism (I forget the name of the sect but it was mentioned elsewhere on this forum). I think it came from Hitler's mention in chapter 11 of Mein Kampf: "The Jew has always been a people with definite racial characteristics and never a religion."

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Post by Witch-King of Angmar » 10 Jan 2004 20:13

Nagelfar wrote:
1812 wrote:Seriously I don't think it mattered what religion you were. As long as you were not Jewish that is.
actually, there were SS men allowed to practice Judaism (I forget the name of the sect but it was mentioned elsewhere on this forum).
Karaites was their name.

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Post by Gyenes » 10 Jan 2004 22:11

Did not Mussolini demand of the Germans that they respect the Catholic religion ,as the majority of italians are cahtolics, prior to him joining in alliance with Germany?

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Post by 1812 » 10 Jan 2004 22:48

Gyenes wrote:Did not Mussolini demand of the Germans that they respect the Catholic religion ,as the majority of italians are cahtolics, prior to him joining in alliance with Germany?
Wasn't Hitler himself Catholic. I doubt that he practised it, but I thought he was baptised in a catholic church.

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Post by 1812 » 10 Jan 2004 22:50

Nagelfar wrote:
1812 wrote:Seriously I don't think it mattered what religion you were. As long as you were not Jewish that is.
actually, there were SS men allowed to practice Judaism (I forget the name of the sect but it was mentioned elsewhere on this forum). I think it came from Hitler's mention in chapter 11 of Mein Kampf: "The Jew has always been a people with definite racial characteristics and never a religion."
Oh yeah I forgot about that. Admiral Lütjens was jewish as well was'nt he?

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Post by Alixanther » 11 Jan 2004 08:00

People in the Third Reich were not persecuted on a religious ground. Only on a racial ground... Jews had to suffer (ironic, isn't it?) both in Germany (because of their origin) and Russia (because of their religion). Although some commisars proved their skill and talent remarkably well...

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