Hitler,s second book

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Hitler,s second book

Post by pdhinkle » 12 Jan 2004 02:36

http://www.history-of-the-holocaust.org ... raHit.html

Click above and copy the url then paste it in your address bar , here are some exrepts from his other book.

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Post by DrG » 12 Jan 2004 02:51

Full text of the English translation of Hitler's Zweites Buch.

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hitlers second book

Post by waffen » 07 Apr 2004 06:51

:D will study this one day its practically unheard of.

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Post by Orok » 07 Apr 2004 18:12

This book is all over the place in bookstores here in the US. I wonder if it's real or another fraud like Hiler's diary?

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Post by EER » 08 Apr 2004 05:57

Indeed! I just saw this on the shelves of Barnes and Noble today. If it's a fake, there are probably the same telltale signs found in the Hitler diaries. When I find the time I'll look at it in detail.

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Post by tanyakarn » 10 Apr 2004 05:15

Orok wrote:This book is all over the place in bookstores here in the US. I wonder if it's real or another fraud like Hiler's diary?

Best Regards!


If I'm not mistaken, an American "discovered" the transcripts after the war. That's the one you can find in the bookstores. Then another person also "found" the transcripts.

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Post by michael mills » 13 Apr 2004 02:00

The typewritten original was found by the historian Gerhard Weinberg in the United States archives among material seized at the end of the war.

The original German-language edition of the book, published in the 60s, contains a copy of a certification issued by the US Army in 1945, setting out the particulars of where the original material was discovered and how it came into the possession of the United States.

After its seizure, the typscript seems to have been cosigned to the US Archives and forgotten. Weinberg went looking for it after he became aware of its existence from various clues, and eventually found it in the 1960s.

I have read the German-language edition published by Weinberg. Weinberg believes it is a genuine work by Hitler, and that the history of its seizure and storage demonstrates that it is not a post-war fabrication, but was written in 1928 by Hitler as a continuation of Part II of "Mein Kampf", which dealt with foreign policy, as does the so-called "second Book".

I would agree that the Second Book is not a post-war forgery, but I would question whether it is actually written by Hitler (or dictated by him to someone else, as Weinberg presumes).

The development of the argument about racial theory as the basis for all foreign policy is very logical and ordered, far more so than the material in "Mein Kampf". Furthermore, the Jewish Question hardly plays a role in it, compared with the prominence given to it by Hitler in his opther writings and utterances.

My own impression is that the original typescript represents an attempt by someone with a clear, logical mind to develop a solid theoretical basis for National Socialist ideology and its foreign policies. Since the style of the writing in many ways mimics that of Hitler, it may be that the intention was that the work eventually be published under Hitler's name.

That would not be unusual, since it is known that large parts of "Mein Kampf", particularly Part II, were actually composed by Rudolf Hess, who was a student of the Haushofers and incorporated their geopolitical theories into the work.

It may that Hitler decided not to go ahead with the project. Or it may be that Hitler did not even know that the so-called "Second Book" was being written, and that its author did not present it to him for one reason or another. The fact is that the original typescript was found in 1945 in the possession of a totally insignificant person (I forget the name), who may possibly have been the actual author.

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Post by Roderick » 13 Apr 2004 12:21

if this book is real why wasn't published when the führer was still alive? :(

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Post by The Blond Beast » 18 May 2004 18:38

Kept strictly secret under Hitler's orders, the document was placed in an air raid shelter in 1935 where it remained until it's discovery by an American officer in 1945.

Quoted from: http://www.adolfhitler.ws/lib/books/zweites/zweites.htm

Were there Air Raids Shelters in 1935??????

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Post by Geli » 18 May 2004 23:57

About 20 years ago, I read a book by Hitler called "My New Order." Could this just be a reissue of the same book? Maybe they're just selling it by slapping on some crap about it being "newly discovered?"

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Post by varjag » 19 May 2004 11:53

I wonder - could this perhaps be Hitlers 'third book'? His first, Mein Kampf, was followed by a 'second' in 1926 - but sales were so slow that in 1930, when Hitler had attained national prominence, his publisher, Max Amann combined 'one' and 'two' in a single volume - generally published as 'Mein Kampf' a f t e r 1930....but they were separate before that. In 1928 he dictated a 'third' book, mostly to Amann's secretaries - and this is the one that only was published in 1961 as 'Hitlers Secret Book'. My guess is that this is 'the newly discovered' and as the manuscript was untitled any enterprising printer can put his own title on it! Who gets the royalties?

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Post by john2 » 20 May 2004 15:49

The book "My New Order" was not written by Hitler. Although Hitler's name is on the cover he had nothing to do with the book and it is misleading. The book is actually a compilation of Hitler's speeches with commentary and was written in America in the fall of 1941. On the other hand the book called Hitler's secret book was found in an air raid shelter in Germany in 1945. It is supposed to have been written in 1928 possibly by Hitler but for some reason was never published. Hope that helps.

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Post by Geli » 20 May 2004 16:17

john2 wrote:The book "My New Order" was not written by Hitler. Although Hitler's name is on the cover he had nothing to do with the book and it is misleading. The book is actually a compilation of Hitler's speeches with commentary...


Ah, that's helpful. But, didn't Hitler write his own speeches?

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Post by john2 » 20 May 2004 16:29

Yes he did but my point was that Hitler himself did not make the book. Hitler's name appears on the cover as if he were the author when inside it is clear that someone else put the book together. My point is that aside from making the speeches Hitler played no part in compiling, editing or making commentary. That was the work of the author(s), I think there was more then one and was most likely done without Hitler's permission.

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Post by michael mills » 21 May 2004 01:02

John 2,

You are incorrect in saying that Hitler's so-called second book was found in an air-raid shelter at the end of the war.

It was in fact handed over to United States investigators by the perosn who had possession of it. The details of its seizure are noted on a label attached to the original typescript found in the US National Archives by Gerhard Weinberg, and are published in the foreword to the german-language edition of the book in about 1968.

The context of the material contained in the typescript suggest that it was written in about 1928. However, I have my doubts that it was written by Hitler himself. The argumentation in it, including the theoretical basis for the "folkish" approach to foreign policy, is very logical and well-developed, quite unlike the rambling style of those parts of "Mein Kampf" that were probably written by Hitler himself.

I suspect that it was written by another person, perhaps on behalf of Hitler, and intended for publication under Hitler's own name. It is known that extensive sections of Part 2 of "Mein Kampf" , particularly those dealing with foreign policy, were actually written by Rudolf Hess, incorporating the geopolitical theories of Hess's mentor professor Karl Haushofer.

It may that it was not published simply because Hitler lost interest in the project. He was never in favour of developing political theories and ideology, preferring activism based on instinct and a feeling for what was expedient at the time.

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