Pornography in Third Reich

[VoL[oM]

any pics of these magazine ?

[Panzermahn]

any pics of these magazine ?

sorry to disappoint you,

actually this thread is about discussing the availability and the implications or consequences of this kind of material in the Third Reich

not sharing lewd photos...if you want that then you had go to plaboy or hustler website

Hitler banned all porno materials except his favourite one, Der Sturmer (English: The Stormer) by the Fuhrer of Franconia, Julius Streicher

Although der sturmer is considered a semi-pornographic compare to porno mags todays, it literally full with hate articles especially on jewish alleged rapes of gentile women..and it is this magazine which is automatically a death sentence for Streicher's alleged incitement of hate where even leaders of Ku Klux Klan in America were not being executed for the same thing what Streicher did...

a curious miscarriage of justice?

[Marcus]

panzermahn,

As you very well know, discussions on the warcrimes trials belong in another section of the forum.

/Marcus

[Panzermahn]

Okay Marcus,


i didn't meant it to discuss about Julius Streicher here....


Do you know what is the Third Reich's Law concerning pornography?

I don't think that the banning of porno materials is effective because of the black market in Germany during the war...

[Cory C]

I have a related question. What did the Nazis consider to be pornographic? Was nudity banned, or just vulgar forms of it?

I ask because I recently came into possesion of a booklet called Nude Photography in Nazi Germany which features pictures of German women nude, but in nature-friendly and tasteful poses.
In fact, the book is a recent reprint (2001 copyright) which doesn't have a "credit page" (the first page with the ISDN #, source, etc.) so I can't even say for sure that it's third-reich era...or even that the women are German!


~Cory

[Brannik]

Well,I remember reading somewhere that when the Blomberg affair exploded(Blomberg marrying a former prostitute),the chief evidence against her were a bunch of nude photos which were held by the "Vice" department fo the police.They were even shown to Hitler and Goering.

Regards

[Penn44]

A number of Nazis were not opposed to nudity per se as a small portion of them were "nudists." Some nudist magazines and books were published during the Third Reich.


Penn44


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[Peter H]

This from the Guardian last week:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/arts/features ... 58,00.html

Kunkel also interviewed 57 elderly German soldiers who had served with Erwin Rommel in north Africa, where much of the novel is set. They confirmed what he already suspected - that during the second world war, the German military traded Nazi pornography with the locals. The Sachsenwald films even ended up in the hands of the Bey of Tunis, a regent with a legendary collection of pornography. "It was the thing the locals were most interested in. In return, the soldiers got food, water and supplies," Kunkel says.

[Psycho Mike]

Hi Moulded, your post led to me search out the porno market in the Reich.

I found the info! Even with the "morally pure" rhetoric- it turns out Germany couldn't wipe out porn! Even under threat of death.

And- one of the "stars" has been found! So there was porno in the reich! And the films still exist! Here is what I found:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/arts/features ... 58,00.html
EXCERPT:

The latest novel of Germany's hot young writer Thor Kunkel exposes the Nazis' previously unknown trade in pornographic films. Sounds like a guaranteed bestseller. So why has the book's publisher cancelled it and kicked up a literary storm? Luke Harding investigates
Before submitting his manuscript to his publisher last summer, Kunkel had researched long and hard into one of the most subterranean aspects of the Nazi era - a series of erotic home movies known as the Sachsenwald films, shot secretly in 1941. Officially, pornography was forbidden under the Nazis; in reality, however, the films were not only screened privately for the amusement of senior Nazi figures, but were also traded in north Africa for insect repellent and other commodities. Kunkel discovered two of the black and white films - the pastoral Desire in the Woods and The Trapper. In one of them, a man ties a naked woman to a tree. Incredibly, Kunkel tracked down the actress some 60 years after her woodland nude scene, living in an old people's home outside Hamburg. "I found her via a photographer who had known her since she was 14, when she posed for nude photographs," Kunkel says.

http://www.dw-world.de/english/0,3367,1 ... _A,00.html

EXCERPT:

He came upon the subject material for "Endstufe" after watching a documentary in 1991 that looked into the little-known porn industry that apparently flourished during the Third Reich. After asking around, he eventually got in contact with someone who had copies of the so-called Sachsenwald films. The films are reportedly filled with with scenes of sex, power relations and violence. They were rumored to have been part of a flourishing raw materials trade.

Kunkel, based in Amsterdam, moved to Berlin to research the book, drawing upon witness testimony at the time, including a former actress in one of the films. He forms his novel around a group of Nazi scientists who work at a Secret Service clinic and produce porn films on the side. The films are soon a major success and part of a trade network that stretches throughout the wider war zone.

[Acolyte]

There was one porn movie shot in the Theresienstadt concentration camp - not during WW2 though, but a couple of years ago. Unsurpsisingly, Jewish groups all around the Czech Republic were outraged.

[Helly Angel]

"Der Stürmer" was not pornographic.

In the III Reich were not forbbiden nude people publications, were legal.

I have several originals photos of this kind of art if is not a problem I can post in a thread.

With all respect, Hollywood films are not a good source to research the history.

best,